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What Hat Are You Wearing Today ?

RickP

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Yesterday we had 84 degrees before the cold front, and we were 34 at daybreak today..... I guess winter isnt over yet. More time for winter hats and wool jackets!

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One of the ways I constrain the size of my hat collection is to keep only hats in my size. This Stetson nutria fur tall derby is an exception. Besides its crown height, this hat has a number of features that are not represented in other hats I've found over the years and that help to identify a period of Stetson manufacturing around the time of WWI or just after. I have owned a number of western hats with the "Made of Real Nutria Fur" oval imprint from the mid 1920s. This variant is an older version with an oddly primitive animal... perhaps before the attempts to raise nutria in the U.S. for hatting fur. I've included a bunch of detail photos which I hope you enjoy seeing.


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Steve, unfortunately your last couple of posts have left me disappointed. I’ve once again been unable to see the hat pictures. I’ve been able to see the additional photos you post with the actual hat pictures, but not the hats themselves.
Gary, Thank you! I forgot to remove the extra junk Flickr added to the jpg string that causes problems. I just edited it so hopefully you can see the hat now.

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One of the ways I constrain the size of my hat collection is to keep only hats in my size. This Stetson nutria fur tall derby is an exception. Besides its crown height, this hat has a number of features that are not represented in other hats I've found over the years and that help to identify a period of Stetson manufacturing around the time of WWI or just after. I have owned a number of western hats with the "Made of Real Nutria Fur" oval imprint from the mid 1920s. This variant is an older version with an oddly primitive animal... perhaps before the attempts to raise nutria in the U.S. for hatting fur. I've included a bunch of detail photos which I hope you enjoy seeing.


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Alan, That is an amazing Stiff Felt!
 

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That is ABSOLUTELY too kewl for skool, Robert!!!
My lady read your comment Mark and smiled: "It was your idea," I reminded her, to which she treated me to another beautiful smile.

Today I have meeting with the selling agent, our house is on the market. My legal eagle will be at that meeting too. What to wear, I've had a lifetime of suits. Then seeing RickP and Alanfgag in totally different hats but both looking so impressive in the colour black, they inspired me:
Just like Rick and Alan, it's a black hat day.
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And the suits can stay in the wardrobe.
 
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J. Hückel´s Söhne "Superior" "Paris Grand Prix 1900", possibly mid 1930s, and is in NOS like condition. "Superior" was JHS's highest quality mark. The Light Gray Felt is very dense with a smooth finish, that has a very soft hand, but is Semi Stiff, so possibly worn without side dents. It came from a Bulgarian seller, so probably exported to Bulgaria from the JHS Ratibor factory I found this Semi Stiff Felt back in 2009.

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J. Hückel's Söhne Hat Factory Ratibor, Silesia, Germany (1925). I found this rare document back in 2014.

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The factory at the top of the document is the main factory in Neutitschein (Novy Jicin, Czechoslovakia, became TONAK after WWII). The factory at the bottom of the document is the Ratibor factory. They also had factories / operations in Skoczów, Poland (PolkaP) and Vienna, Austria.

English Translation (Updated 08/03/2025)

Hat Factory J. Hückels Söhne Ratibor

The hat factory J. Hückels Söhne, Ratibor, was founded by the well-known company J. Hückels Söhne, Neutitschein, Czechoslovakia, which is also well-known on the German market. The reasons that led to the establishment of a factory on German soil are best characterized by the situation of the German market in the post-war period. The import restrictions that arose as a result of the reparations burdens made it almost impossible for the Neutitschein factory to serve its customers who had been loyal for decades, and so only a factory on German soil had to or could offer the guarantee of continuing to play a leading role in the German hat market.

It is probably part of the founding history of the young factory to briefly state the dates that also concern the parent company and its origins.

The Neutitschein company was founded in 1799, when the then hat maker Johann Nepomuk Hückel, a native of Fulnek in Moravia, acquired the master craftsman's license in Neutitschein. In 1811 his brother Augustin followed him to Neutitschein, and now the two brothers each ran the hat-making business separately. Production was based on the old craft traditions. In 1835, Augustin Hückel's son, Johann Hückel, took over his father's business and, in the turbulent year of 1848, also that of his uncle, in order to continue it together under the old form.

The Austrian hat industry, which was just beginning to emerge at the time, was not yet familiar with the practices of the foreign competition that dominated the world market. It was to Johann Hückel's credit that he gradually began to show a keen interest in the issues of expanding his production and technical perfection. His three sons August, Johann and Karl, who had all learned the craft of hat making according to the old custom, were sent out into the world by him to gain experience that would be put to good use in his own business.

The result of this pioneering work was that in 1865 Johann Hückel was the first in Austria to convert his business into a mechanical one by installing a three-horse steam engine. This put an end to the rapid development of the company and in 1867 the company had to be relocated as it proved too small for the demands placed on it. In 1868 Johann Hückel handed over the management of the business to his three sons, but he remained their most keen advisor for many years. His services were recognized at the highest level by the award of the Golden Cross of Merit.

The factory, which was now being built on a site outside the city, had the necessary expansion potential and the circumstances of the time as well as the efficiency of the owners allowed the company to flourish quickly and to quickly take a dominant position not only in Austria but also on the world market. The basis was created through hard work, and the company worked tirelessly and with all its energy to develop its relations abroad and thereby establish its reputation. It will certainly be of general interest if some data is given here about the size of the Neutitschein main factory, which will give everyone a clear picture of the development of the company from its humble beginnings to its current size and importance. The factory now covers an area of 48,000 square meters, the built-up factory area is 22,000 square meters, and the area used for production is 36,000 square meters. Before the war, the factory employed around 3,000 workers with a daily production of more than 6,000 units. As a result of the war conditions and the economic hardship that followed, the number of workers and production have fallen considerably, but there is no doubt that the old capacity can be reached again when more or less normal conditions return.

It should also be mentioned that the factory has its own hairdressing salon and therefore prepares the raw materials itself, as well as its own workshops for the production of the necessary professional work, such as metalworking, foundry, carpentry and wood turning, as well as cardboard production, so that the products can leave the establishment ready for mailing.

The increase in production from year to year and the associated additional work prompted the owners of the company to enlist the help of their sons and current owners of the company years before the war.

The outbreak of the World War and the associated disruption of the entire economic life also had a negative effect on the already elderly owners of the J. Hückels Söhne company, but their tireless energy and drive managed to keep the business going throughout the entire period, and even to partially switch production to other items. The consequences of this extraordinary effort were not long in coming. In 1917, the two owners, August and Johann Hückel, died one after the other, and in 1919 their brother Karl followed them into a better world. The company owners' work was recognized with the award of the title, "K. u. k. Court hat manufacturers" and the award of the Iron Crown Order, Third Class to the two brothers August and Johann Hückel.

The company's products have also been repeatedly awarded prizes, for example in 1873 in Vienna with the Progress Medal, in 1876 at the World Exhibition in Philadelphia with the highest award, in 1878 in Paris with the Gold Medal and in 1900 in Paris with the Grand Prix.

So much for the history of the parent company. Now to the Ratibor company itself. When it was purchased, part of the factory was already there, another part had to be built from scratch. Today the factory covers an area of 13,000 square meters, of which 4,500 square meters are built and the work area is around 9,000 square meters.

The drive is electric, the necessary electrical energy is supplied by a 300 HP steam engine. The heating and boiler systems are also state-of-the-art and are fed by a suspension railway directly from the railway carriage. Ventilation of the work rooms is provided to meet all hygienic requirements. The factory also has its own metalworking and carpentry workshop for carrying out any repairs to machines. At present, 500 workers are employed. When setting up this factory, too, we had to start with the smallest thing, so to speak, and only gradually could regular production from the raw product begin. It was a plan that was pursued with great vigor, the motive of which must be said to be the preservation of the German market. The company only produces hair hats, with a specialty being velour hats, which enjoy the best reputation throughout the world.

The catastrophe that struck Germany in 1923 also had a serious impact on this young company, but despite all the obstacles, further expansion and improvement were never neglected. And today one can safely say that the J. Hückels Söhne company in Ratibor has achieved its intention of retaining the German market. Of course, there are limits to the expansion of this company, primarily those caused by the separation of former German territories. Compensating for these losses will probably mean more intensive cultivation of the remaining territory.

The history of a company represents its value, this claim has been fully confirmed in the case of most German industrial creations, and the history of the J. Hückels Söhne company will also be a guarantee that tireless progress will be made in building up Germany's economic power, which must be the aim and aspiration of the entire German people to regain.
 

RickP

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J. Hückel´s Söhne "Superior" "Paris Grand Prix 1900", possibly mid 1930s, and is in NOS like condition. "Superior" was JHS's highest quality mark. The Light Gray Felt is very dense with a smooth finish, that has a very soft hand, but is Semi Stiff, so possibly worn without side dents. It came from a Bulgarian seller, so probably exported to Bulgaria from the JHS Ratibor factory I found this Semi Stiff Felt back in 2009.

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J. Hückel's Söhne Hat Factory Ratibor, Silesia, Germany (1925). I found this rare document back in 2014.

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The factory at the top of the document is the main factory in Neutitschein (Novy Jicin, Czechoslovakia, became TONAK after WWII). The factory at the bottom of the document is the Ratibor factory. They also had factories / operations in Skoczów, Poland (PolkaP) and Vienna, Austria.

English Translation (Updated 08/03/2025)

Hat Factory J. Hückels Söhne Ratibor

The hat factory J. Hückels Söhne, Ratibor, was founded by the well-known company J. Hückels Söhne, Neutitschein, Czechoslovakia, which is also well-known on the German market. The reasons that led to the establishment of a factory on German soil are best characterized by the situation of the German market in the post-war period. The import restrictions that arose as a result of the reparations burdens made it almost impossible for the Neutitschein factory to serve its customers who had been loyal for decades, and so only a factory on German soil had to or could offer the guarantee of continuing to play a leading role in the German hat market.

It is probably part of the founding history of the young factory to briefly state the dates that also concern the parent company and its origins.

The Neutitschein company was founded in 1799, when the then hat maker Johann Nepomuk Hückel, a native of Fulnek in Moravia, acquired the master craftsman's license in Neutitschein. In 1811 his brother Augustin followed him to Neutitschein, and now the two brothers each ran the hat-making business separately. Production was based on the old craft traditions. In 1835, Augustin Hückel's son, Johann Hückel, took over his father's business and, in the turbulent year of 1848, also that of his uncle, in order to continue it together under the old form.

The Austrian hat industry, which was just beginning to emerge at the time, was not yet familiar with the practices of the foreign competition that dominated the world market. It was to Johann Hückel's credit that he gradually began to show a keen interest in the issues of expanding his production and technical perfection. His three sons August, Johann and Karl, who had all learned the craft of hat making according to the old custom, were sent out into the world by him to gain experience that would be put to good use in his own business.

The result of this pioneering work was that in 1865 Johann Hückel was the first in Austria to convert his business into a mechanical one by installing a three-horse steam engine. This put an end to the rapid development of the company and in 1867 the company had to be relocated as it proved too small for the demands placed on it. In 1868 Johann Hückel handed over the management of the business to his three sons, but he remained their most keen advisor for many years. His services were recognized at the highest level by the award of the Golden Cross of Merit.

The factory, which was now being built on a site outside the city, had the necessary expansion potential and the circumstances of the time as well as the efficiency of the owners allowed the company to flourish quickly and to quickly take a dominant position not only in Austria but also on the world market. The basis was created through hard work, and the company worked tirelessly and with all its energy to develop its relations abroad and thereby establish its reputation. It will certainly be of general interest if some data is given here about the size of the Neutitschein main factory, which will give everyone a clear picture of the development of the company from its humble beginnings to its current size and importance. The factory now covers an area of 48,000 square meters, the built-up factory area is 22,000 square meters, and the area used for production is 36,000 square meters. Before the war, the factory employed around 3,000 workers with a daily production of more than 6,000 units. As a result of the war conditions and the economic hardship that followed, the number of workers and production have fallen considerably, but there is no doubt that the old capacity can be reached again when more or less normal conditions return.

It should also be mentioned that the factory has its own hairdressing salon and therefore prepares the raw materials itself, as well as its own workshops for the production of the necessary professional work, such as metalworking, foundry, carpentry and wood turning, as well as cardboard production, so that the products can leave the establishment ready for mailing.

The increase in production from year to year and the associated additional work prompted the owners of the company to enlist the help of their sons and current owners of the company years before the war.

The outbreak of the World War and the associated disruption of the entire economic life also had a negative effect on the already elderly owners of the J. Hückels Söhne company, but their tireless energy and drive managed to keep the business going throughout the entire period, and even to partially switch production to other items. The consequences of this extraordinary effort were not long in coming. In 1917, the two owners, August and Johann Hückel, died one after the other, and in 1919 their brother Karl followed them into a better world. The company owners' work was recognized with the award of the title, "K. u. k. Court hat manufacturers" and the award of the Iron Crown Order, Third Class to the two brothers August and Johann Hückel.

The company's products have also been repeatedly awarded prizes, for example in 1873 in Vienna with the Progress Medal, in 1876 at the World Exhibition in Philadelphia with the highest award, in 1878 in Paris with the Gold Medal and in 1900 in Paris with the Grand Prix.

So much for the history of the parent company. Now to the Ratibor company itself. When it was purchased, part of the factory was already there, another part had to be built from scratch. Today the factory covers an area of 13,000 square meters, of which 4,500 square meters are built and the work area is around 9,000 square meters.

The drive is electric, the necessary electrical energy is supplied by a 300 HP steam engine. The heating and boiler systems are also state-of-the-art and are fed by a suspension railway directly from the railway carriage. Ventilation of the work rooms is provided to meet all hygienic requirements. The factory also has its own metalworking and carpentry workshop for carrying out any repairs to machines. At present, 500 workers are employed. When setting up this factory, too, we had to start with the smallest thing, so to speak, and only gradually could regular production from the raw product begin. It was a plan that was pursued with great vigor, the motive of which must be said to be the preservation of the German market. The company only produces hair hats, with a specialty being velour hats, which enjoy the best reputation throughout the world.

The catastrophe that struck Germany in 1923 also had a serious impact on this young company, but despite all the obstacles, further expansion and improvement were never neglected. And today one can safely say that the J. Hückels Söhne company in Ratibor has achieved its intention of retaining the German market. Of course, there are limits to the expansion of this company, primarily those caused by the separation of former German territories. Compensating for these losses will probably mean more intensive cultivation of the remaining territory.

The history of a company represents its value, this claim has been fully confirmed in the case of most German industrial creations, and the history of the J. Hückels Söhne company will also be a guarantee that tireless progress will be made in building up Germany's economic power, which must be the aim and aspiration of the entire German people to regain.
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J. Hückel´s Söhne "Superior" "Paris Grand Prix 1900", possibly mid 1930s, and is in NOS like condition. "Superior" was JHS's highest quality mark. The Light Gray Felt is very dense with a smooth finish, that has a very soft hand, but is Semi Stiff, so possibly worn without side dents. It came from a Bulgarian seller, so probably exported to Bulgaria from the JHS Ratibor factory I found this Semi Stiff Felt back in 2009.

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J. Hückel's Söhne Hat Factory Ratibor, Silesia, Germany (1925). I found this rare document back in 2014.

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14169122191_e3804336aa_b.jpg


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The factory at the top of the document is the main factory in Neutitschein (Novy Jicin, Czechoslovakia, became TONAK after WWII). The factory at the bottom of the document is the Ratibor factory. They also had factories / operations in Skoczów, Poland (PolkaP) and Vienna, Austria.

English Translation (Updated 08/03/2025)

Hat Factory J. Hückels Söhne Ratibor

The hat factory J. Hückels Söhne, Ratibor, was founded by the well-known company J. Hückels Söhne, Neutitschein, Czechoslovakia, which is also well-known on the German market. The reasons that led to the establishment of a factory on German soil are best characterized by the situation of the German market in the post-war period. The import restrictions that arose as a result of the reparations burdens made it almost impossible for the Neutitschein factory to serve its customers who had been loyal for decades, and so only a factory on German soil had to or could offer the guarantee of continuing to play a leading role in the German hat market.

It is probably part of the founding history of the young factory to briefly state the dates that also concern the parent company and its origins.

The Neutitschein company was founded in 1799, when the then hat maker Johann Nepomuk Hückel, a native of Fulnek in Moravia, acquired the master craftsman's license in Neutitschein. In 1811 his brother Augustin followed him to Neutitschein, and now the two brothers each ran the hat-making business separately. Production was based on the old craft traditions. In 1835, Augustin Hückel's son, Johann Hückel, took over his father's business and, in the turbulent year of 1848, also that of his uncle, in order to continue it together under the old form.

The Austrian hat industry, which was just beginning to emerge at the time, was not yet familiar with the practices of the foreign competition that dominated the world market. It was to Johann Hückel's credit that he gradually began to show a keen interest in the issues of expanding his production and technical perfection. His three sons August, Johann and Karl, who had all learned the craft of hat making according to the old custom, were sent out into the world by him to gain experience that would be put to good use in his own business.

The result of this pioneering work was that in 1865 Johann Hückel was the first in Austria to convert his business into a mechanical one by installing a three-horse steam engine. This put an end to the rapid development of the company and in 1867 the company had to be relocated as it proved too small for the demands placed on it. In 1868 Johann Hückel handed over the management of the business to his three sons, but he remained their most keen advisor for many years. His services were recognized at the highest level by the award of the Golden Cross of Merit.

The factory, which was now being built on a site outside the city, had the necessary expansion potential and the circumstances of the time as well as the efficiency of the owners allowed the company to flourish quickly and to quickly take a dominant position not only in Austria but also on the world market. The basis was created through hard work, and the company worked tirelessly and with all its energy to develop its relations abroad and thereby establish its reputation. It will certainly be of general interest if some data is given here about the size of the Neutitschein main factory, which will give everyone a clear picture of the development of the company from its humble beginnings to its current size and importance. The factory now covers an area of 48,000 square meters, the built-up factory area is 22,000 square meters, and the area used for production is 36,000 square meters. Before the war, the factory employed around 3,000 workers with a daily production of more than 6,000 units. As a result of the war conditions and the economic hardship that followed, the number of workers and production have fallen considerably, but there is no doubt that the old capacity can be reached again when more or less normal conditions return.

It should also be mentioned that the factory has its own hairdressing salon and therefore prepares the raw materials itself, as well as its own workshops for the production of the necessary professional work, such as metalworking, foundry, carpentry and wood turning, as well as cardboard production, so that the products can leave the establishment ready for mailing.

The increase in production from year to year and the associated additional work prompted the owners of the company to enlist the help of their sons and current owners of the company years before the war.

The outbreak of the World War and the associated disruption of the entire economic life also had a negative effect on the already elderly owners of the J. Hückels Söhne company, but their tireless energy and drive managed to keep the business going throughout the entire period, and even to partially switch production to other items. The consequences of this extraordinary effort were not long in coming. In 1917, the two owners, August and Johann Hückel, died one after the other, and in 1919 their brother Karl followed them into a better world. The company owners' work was recognized with the award of the title, "K. u. k. Court hat manufacturers" and the award of the Iron Crown Order, Third Class to the two brothers August and Johann Hückel.

The company's products have also been repeatedly awarded prizes, for example in 1873 in Vienna with the Progress Medal, in 1876 at the World Exhibition in Philadelphia with the highest award, in 1878 in Paris with the Gold Medal and in 1900 in Paris with the Grand Prix.

So much for the history of the parent company. Now to the Ratibor company itself. When it was purchased, part of the factory was already there, another part had to be built from scratch. Today the factory covers an area of 13,000 square meters, of which 4,500 square meters are built and the work area is around 9,000 square meters.

The drive is electric, the necessary electrical energy is supplied by a 300 HP steam engine. The heating and boiler systems are also state-of-the-art and are fed by a suspension railway directly from the railway carriage. Ventilation of the work rooms is provided to meet all hygienic requirements. The factory also has its own metalworking and carpentry workshop for carrying out any repairs to machines. At present, 500 workers are employed. When setting up this factory, too, we had to start with the smallest thing, so to speak, and only gradually could regular production from the raw product begin. It was a plan that was pursued with great vigor, the motive of which must be said to be the preservation of the German market. The company only produces hair hats, with a specialty being velour hats, which enjoy the best reputation throughout the world.

The catastrophe that struck Germany in 1923 also had a serious impact on this young company, but despite all the obstacles, further expansion and improvement were never neglected. And today one can safely say that the J. Hückels Söhne company in Ratibor has achieved its intention of retaining the German market. Of course, there are limits to the expansion of this company, primarily those caused by the separation of former German territories. Compensating for these losses will probably mean more intensive cultivation of the remaining territory.

The history of a company represents its value, this claim has been fully confirmed in the case of most German industrial creations, and the history of the J. Hückels Söhne company will also be a guarantee that tireless progress will be made in building up Germany's economic power, which must be the aim and aspiration of the entire German people to regain.
Lovely hat Steve
 
Today, (or at least this morning) a modern Stetson "travel" hat. Nice soft felt in their "Sage". This afternoon I will probably wear my Sage Strat or even my "Bluegrass Green" Campdraft (though I actually wear that one a LOT).

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EDIT: The Akubra won......(it is VERY sunny, and I needed the extra brim).
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