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Footwear to go with our jackets

bigmanbigtruck

Practically Family
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Been breaking in the Truman Gallun Horserump - started out stiff but getting way better.

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TLW '90

One Too Many
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I hate kilties. Just make the boots look fat and ugly. And realistically almost no one needs for our use cases.
They protect a boots tongue from being worn into by the laces, especially when using a particularly durable lace which can be more prone to doing this.
They can also add a tad bit of thickness to the tongue and help snug up a fit just a little.
I can understand not liking the look ( I don't like dress boots or cap toes ), but most people can actually benefit from them at least to some degree.
 

cbez

Call Me a Cab
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They protect a boots tongue from being worn into by the laces, especially when using a particularly durable lace which can be more prone to doing this.
They can also add a tad bit of thickness to the tongue and help snug up a fit just a little.
I can understand not liking the look ( I don't like dress boots or cap toes ), but most people can actually benefit from them at least to some degree.
I have used many leather and cotton laces. Believe I had paracord too. I have never seen a hint of them 'wearing into' a tongue. Discolor/imprint yes. That's what the tongue is for. On PNW boots you often have a folded tongue which is already several layers of leather in that area.

Snugging up is better fixed by buying boots that fit, or wearing thicker socks.
 

bigmanbigtruck

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They protect a boots tongue from being worn into by the laces, especially when using a particularly durable lace which can be more prone to doing this.
They can also add a tad bit of thickness to the tongue and help snug up a fit just a little.
I can understand not liking the look ( I don't like dress boots or cap toes ), but most people can actually benefit from them at least to some degree.
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Unless you use these for laces, I don't see how they can wear through the tongue...
 

TLW '90

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I have used many leather and cotton laces. Believe I had paracord too. I have never seen a hint of them 'wearing into' a tongue. Discolor/imprint yes. That's what the tongue is for. On PNW boots you often have a folded tongue which is already several layers of leather in that area.

Snugging up is better fixed by buying boots that fit, or wearing thicker socks.
Plenty of boots have a much thinner softer leather for the tongue.
And as far as snugging up the fit, sometimes you just don't know how certain brands will exactly fit and whether it's summer or the toebox isn't particularly roomy you may not be able to get away with thicker socks. It's not going to do alot, but it can offer just enough for some people and some boots in some situations.
 

TLW '90

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Unless you use these for laces, I don't see how they can wear through the tongue...
Not through but definitely into, especially with certain makes that use a thinner leather for the tongue.
Even if it's not really wearing the tongue, with some boots that have that thinner tongue one can sometimes feel the laces on the top of their foot.
Kilties do have multiple practical purposes are aren't only for looks, that's all I'm saying.


Btw those wire saws were originally built into laces used by OSS & SOE operatives during the war, and you can still get such laces today.
I wouldn't use them even of I didn't hate those mostly useless wire saws but they exist.
 

Faizal Reza

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Attractions Lot.444 Engineers. I've had these from new for a few weeks and it has not been the easiest breaking in period - I could barely get them on at first, but this has eased up and they now slide on nicely. They fit me really well (initial insertion issues aside). Comfort underfoot is still not where I like but improving - the best things come with effort, or so I have been told. Picture of my feet in said boots .. View attachment 663719
Whats your Brannock size and what size are these? I'm trying to figure out the sizing for them. Some say to take half size down. I contacted Attractions and they said to buy half size up.
 

BloodEagle

Practically Family
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585
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UK
Im a UK 11, which equates to roughly a Brannock 12 I think. These are 10.5 and pretty snug but not too much, and heel slip is not really noticeable. I wouldnt go a half size up, but all feet are different I suppose.
 

milkbaby

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They protect a boots tongue from being worn into by the laces, especially when using a particularly durable lace which can be more prone to doing this.
They can also add a tad bit of thickness to the tongue and help snug up a fit just a little.
I can understand not liking the look ( I don't like dress boots or cap toes ), but most people can actually benefit from them at least to some degree.

I have low instep and skinny ankles, so kilties often help snug up that area. My feet are like duck feet, wide up front and low volume, so kilties help refine the fit, and I personally love the look too!
 

navetsea

I'll Lock Up
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I'm in the process of getting my first engineer boots, nothing fancy though just local bootmaker and just local cowhide... and ugh I picked longer and flatter toes like chelsea boots, I know it won't look like the real deal but I don't think cowhide will look good on rounder/ fuller toes since it won't roll and will only crease, it's hand welted but on the more budget side of thing because my budget for it is not much and I want 4cm heelstack
 

Herrvallmo

One Too Many
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Sweden
I'm in the process of getting my first engineer boots, nothing fancy though just local bootmaker and just local cowhide... and ugh I picked longer and flatter toes like chelsea boots, I know it won't look like the real deal but I don't think cowhide will look good on rounder/ fuller toes since it won't roll and will only crease, it's hand welted but on the more budget side of thing because my budget for it is not much and I want 4cm heelstack
I've seen some cowhide engineers with amazing rolls/patina so I wouldn't write of cowhide just like that :)

Did you design the boots yourself @navetsea? love your jackets so I'm very curious what you would cook up if designing boots :D

Cheers mate
 

navetsea

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I've seen some cowhide engineers with amazing rolls/patina so I wouldn't write of cowhide just like that :)

Did you design the boots yourself @navetsea? love your jackets so I'm very curious what you would cook up if designing boots :D

Cheers mate
Thanks, I did draw my preference, but due to the nature of the lower price I have lower expectation and not sure how close or far it would follow my drawing :) but I shall make peace with it, what I know I picked oxblood oilpull cowhide and I want the side of the sole and welt to be lightly stained black, and I wanted the square edge of the outsole to be profiled or trimmed into a angle all around, I wanted logger heel with some shelf on the back to hold the hem of the pants kinda like spur shelf thing, 270 gyw, but I don't know if they use machine or actually hand welt. I will show the drawing once I accept the boots so it won't create any fake expectation since I will wear whatever it would be and won't be hypercritical about it :)
 

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