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How many new jackets do you have coming (and how many potential ones)?

MrProper

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Thanks guys for your honest feedback. Do you think the fit of my Cafe Racer is not right (chest, shoulder, etc.) or did you simply mean that you like the BR better? I honestly considered to sell the black CR in November but then decided against selling as it's one of my Wife's favorite leather jackets.
Thanks!
Cheers,
Robbie

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I like the CR better.
 

alfyman

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I just received my Eastman B3.
 

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Jin431

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I agree with that, wish it was smaller on the CR for a 38. This one is 18" and my best fit is 17" so I'll have to wait until tomorrow to find out how it fits me.

If it's CXL that 18" would feel like a 17.75" because of the thickness of the leather and it might make the difference in comfort. My go to is 17.5" for CXL or for hides 3.5oz or greater, 17-17.25" if midweight but can go to as small as 16.5" if it's a really soft leather

Thanks guys for your honest feedback. Do you think the fit of my Cafe Racer is not right (chest, shoulder, etc.) or did you simply mean that you like the BR better? I honestly considered to sell the black CR in November but then decided against selling as it's one of my Wife's favorite leather jackets.
Thanks!
Cheers,
Robbie

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The CR fits and looks great and something I would wear myself. Its just preference on the trimmer fit of the BR (especially the sleeves) and the leather choice itself. There you have your answer as the wife agrees on that jacket so you can't move it on. . . Yet
 
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tmitchell59

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Took a drive on a beautiful Spring day and came home with this Trio. Two early Wool lined Hercules motorcycle jackets and one pair of boots. Haven't had a parking lot transaction in a few years, everything has gone online. All items came from the same estate. Both jackets are probably size 46. Fit me quite well.

I have a smaller sized Green Lined Hercules. I have only seen one other in the "soft" color lining and belt through style.

I know nothing about the boots.

More on these Hercs to come.

They both need a cleaning.

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Took a drive on a beautiful Spring day and came home with this Trio. Two early Wool lined Hercules motorcycle jackets and one pair of boots. Haven't had a parking lot transaction in a few years, everything has gone online. All items came from the same estate. Both jackets are probably size 46. Fit me quite well.

I have a smaller sized Green Lined Hercules. I have only seen one other in the "soft" color lining and belt through style.

I know nothing about the boots.

More on these Hercs to come.

They both need a cleaning.

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Awesome! Both beautiful jackets. The seller went from asking $4,000 to $1,000 on eBay. All within hours. Then disappeared. Figured someone came in with a lower offer.
 

tmitchell59

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Awesome! Both beautiful jackets. The seller went from asking $4,000 to $1,000 on eBay. All within hours. Then disappeared. Figured someone came in with a lower offer.

The seller was 50 miles. We were talking from the start. The jacket on the left was in the ebay auction. The Green lined and the boots were a separate transaction not part of the auction.

I caution people these were not bought at back yard sale prices. I sometimes get the feeling people think I get this stuff for next to nothing. I don't. I may write up this buy, interesting story with a Happy Ending.

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The seller was 50 miles. We were talking from the start. The jacket on the left was in the ebay auction. The Green lined and the boots were a separate transaction not part of the auction.

I caution people these were not bought at back yard sale prices. I sometimes get the feeling people think I get this stuff for next to nothing. I don't. I may write up this buy, interesting story with a Happy Ending.

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Based on what I’ve paid for the jackets in my meager vintage collection, I know it isn’t next to nothing. I wish it were. The Cals, except for one, were the most inexpensive. Then, somehow, the Windward. The rest I paid enough to try and avoid mentioning it to the wife. She always says, “for that price you can buy a new one”.

The one he had for sale definitely caught my interest as the price came down. Both are really great jackets.
 

ABCD

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Based on what I’ve paid for the jackets in my meager vintage collection, I know it isn’t next to nothing. I wish it were. The Cals, except for one, were the most inexpensive. Then, somehow, the Windward. The rest I paid enough to try and avoid mentioning it to the wife. She always says, “for that price you can buy a new one”.

The one he had for sale definitely caught my interest as the price came down. Both are really great jackets.
What makes that market prices for one vintage brand are higher than prices for another? Is it:

-Quality
-Availability/Rarity
-Coverage in Rin Tanaka's books
-Heritage of the maker

I think I already know the answer, it's probably a combination of the above plus the size of a particular jacket.

But sometimes I wonder why people are willing to pay 1k+ on some Buco, even though the quality of the particular jacket isn't any better (maybe even worse) than a 250-300 jacket from the same era that doesn't carry a Buco label.
 
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What makes that market prices for one vintage brand are higher than prices for another? Is it:

-Quality
-Availability/Rarity
-Coverage in Rin Tanaka's books
-Heritage of the maker

I think I already know the answer, it's probably a combination of the above plus the size of a particular jacket.

But sometimes I wonder why people are willing to pay 1k+ on some Buco, even though the quality of the particular jacket isn't any better (maybe even worse) than a 250-300 jacket from the same era that doesn't carry a Buco label.

Thats what I think. Some combo of all you mentioned. And a genuine passion for the designs and patterns.

Personally, my perception of its rarity really does factor in. Bucos look beautiful, most just don’t seem rare enough for me to fork over the kind of money asked for them. Now, if I ever find a JH-1 or J82 in my size and awesome condition, I know I would fork over some cash.

Also, and at the risk of stating the obvious, I would never fork over a larger sum of money, any money really, for a vintage half-belt or most aviator jackets. No matter how rare or excellent the condition.
 

Riu

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I got the CR today and unfortunately, it's too big although looking at the measurements should have been fine.

If it fits me like this now, I don't even want to think how it will be later on when the leather relaxes.

I like the length and how it sits around the waist but those sleeves are too wide for my taste, and the back also.


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ABCD

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I got the CR today and unfortunately, it's too big although looking at the measurements should have been fine.

If it fits me like this now, I don't even want to think how it will be later on when the leather relaxes.

I like the length and how it sits around the waist but those sleeves are too wide for my taste, and the back also.


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The pattern looks way off. Not just for you but in general. I don't think there shouldn't be that much material on the upper back. I think this jacket is faulty.
 
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Riu

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The pattern looks way off. Not just for you but in general. I don't think there should be that much material on the upper back. I think this jacket is faulty.

This is a 38 with a 21.25" p2p. My other jacket has 21" p2p but it fits nicely around the chest and back
 

Tom71

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I got the CR today and unfortunately, it's too big although looking at the measurements should have been fine.

If it fits me like this now, I don't even want to think how it will be later on when the leather relaxes.

I like the length and how it sits around the waist but those sleeves are too wide for my taste, and the back also.


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Yes, too much leather in the back. If you spec the CR without the expansion gussets, the back will have a shape like that. With the gussets it´s just too much. The rest is fine, IMO, but I don´t think the back will ever relax enough to look ok.
 
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