Vintage Heat?

[plain old dave]

What firearms best work for The Golden Age? My Nominees:

Colt New Service
Colt Government Model (either .45 or .38 Super)
Smith and Wesson Military and Police
Smith and Wesson Model 1926 .44
Colt Police Positive
Remington Model 81
Remington Model 51
M1928 Thompson with vertical fore-end and drum magazine

Additions?

 

[Jovan]

What exactly do you need to know this for?

 

[scotrace]

There are several threads that cover this - which is perhaps why little response.

 

[John in Covina]

(M1917?) The large Colt and also S&W revolvers in 45ACP with moon clips as used by the US Army are quite nice, and if you get a good gunsmith to give them the once over the can be exceptional hand guns.

However, many people prefered pocket pistols of some type, so the multitude of small Browning design autos such as produced by FN are common to the time.

I like the design of the broomhandle Mausers in 9mm. Those Astra Auto pistols that look kinda like bicycle pumps (600-700?) but the calibers are hard to get ammo in today.

 

[Viola]

My grandpop had a teeny .32 semi-automatic (don't know the kind; my dad described it as a "Saturday night special") given to him when he was 18 by his dad who wanted him to work repo back in the day. Grandpop was really big but the pocket pistol was "just in case"

Great-grandmom was NOT amused.

On the other side of the family, my uncle who was in WWII stuck with a regular Colt 1911 all his life, and stood off a mugger when he was past seventy with it.

-Viola

 

[Jovan]

To most people, a "Colt 45" is a pretty fearsome sight. Though any gun is pretty intimidating, really.

 

[cooncatbob]

There's also the classic pocket revolvers. The Colt Detective Special and the S&W Chief Special.
Bob.

 

[Diamondback]

To most people, a "Colt 45" is a pretty fearsome sight. Though any gun is pretty intimidating, really.

Not so intimidating, though, when you know some countermeasures. Rule of thumb is if shooter and knifer/other hand-to-hand fighter are inside 21', pistolero's got problems. Google 'Tueller Principle'.

Some of us are licensed to carry deadly weapons, and I know of more than a few who like their weapons of the day to match their wardrobe of the day. If dressed 'vintage,' it is only appropriate to 'pack vintage'.

 

[Viola]

And the Python in .38 certainly shows up in enough of my noir reading to have an impression on me as a period gun.

 

[Jovan]

You probably mean Pythons just loaded with .38 Special. You can do that with .357 revolvers, if I'm correct.

 

[Diamondback]

IIRC, the Python barely qualifies, entering production in '55. But far be it from me to discriminate on basis of such tastes...

 

[Viola]

You probably mean Pythons just loaded with .38 Special. You can do that with .357 revolvers, if I'm correct.

I know you can put .38 in .357s (I'm planning on buying one in a couple months, not a Colt though) but I was just musing over the myriad pulp stories and mysteries I've read, which are a guilty pleasure of mine, which specify Python in .38 for your stock semi-alcoholic divorced PI with a hard past and harder fists.

Whether such a model was actually popular, I have no idea.

-Viola

 

[Viola]

IIRC, the Python barely qualifies, entering production in '55. But far be it from me to discriminate on basis of such tastes...

I guess I think of cars and fashion from '55 as period, too. Mileage varies? Sorry if I'm just thinking too Atomic Age of Spiffy Modernity!

-Viola

 

[Diamondback]

I guess I think of cars and fashion from '55 as period, too. Mileage varies? Sorry if I'm just thinking too Atomic Age of Spiffy Modernity!

Miss Viola, no argument intended. They're still Golden Age, and if they work for you, that's all that really counts, right? Besides, I make it a point never to pick fights with young ladies who shoot, I like breathing! lol

I still think we need a new room for the Weapons Locker here... anybody else?

 

[Jovan]

I guess I think of cars and fashion from '55 as period, too. Mileage varies? Sorry if I'm just thinking too Atomic Age of Spiffy Modernity!

-Viola

I tend to feel a bit of an outcast at times here too. Half of my vintage interests lie in the '50s and '60s. Oh, and I tried to send a PM but your inbox is apparently full.

 

[Dan G]

Not so intimidating, though, when you know some countermeasures. Rule of thumb is if shooter and knifer/other hand-to-hand fighter are inside 21', pistolero's got problems. Google 'Tueller Principle'.

Tueller's got some pretty interesting stuff to say, but I'll be no volunteer. 21' or not.

 

[Diamondback]

Tueller's got some pretty interesting stuff to say, but I'll be no volunteer. 21' or not.

Nor will I, but I'm certainly willing to practice with a sparring-partner and a "dead-metal" dummy gun.

Just 'cause I know a few things doesn't mean I wanna have to use 'em--remember, I like breathing too much?

 

[Dan G]

Nor will I, but I'm certainly willing to practice with a sparring-partner and a "dead-metal" dummy gun.

Just 'cause I know a few things doesn't mean I wanna have to use 'em--remember, I like breathing too much?

My point exactly.

 

[Story]

What firearms best work for The Golden Age? My Nominees:

Colt New Service
Colt Government Model (either .45 or .38 Super)
Smith and Wesson Military and Police
Smith and Wesson Model 1926 .44
Colt Police Positive
Remington Model 81
Remington Model 51
M1928 Thompson with vertical fore-end and drum magazine

Additions?

You may have missed these threads:
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?p=265658#post265658
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?p=281391#post281391
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?t=3427

Remember that there were some pre-war social prejudices, where automatics were considered 'gangster guns' and law enforcement mostly stuck with issued revolvers.

The .357 was developed in 1935 and offered in Smith & Wesson's large frame revolvers. As far as the pulp/noir writers were concerned, "Python" sounded better than a S&W model number.

 

[happyfilmluvguy]

Miss Viola, no argument intended. They're still Golden Age, and if they work for you, that's all that really counts, right? Besides, I make it a point never to pick fights with young ladies who shoot, I like breathing! lol

I still think we need a new room for the Weapons Locker here... anybody else?

I don't know...for the non-vintage, non-lethal person, if they were to walk in on a discussion like this, they'd have nightmares of guys and dolls in suits, dresses and fedoras shooting at them. Pepper spray anyone?