The Conversion Corral

[milandro]

Hello H&R Those drawings came from an online shop , hatblocks Australia,

https://www.hatblocksaustralia.com.au/flange-brims

they describe the different profile of two different types of flanges which they have reproduced and sell.

 

[Hat and Rehat]

Hello H&R Those drawings came from an online shop , hatblocks Australia,

https://www.hatblocksaustralia.com.au/flange-brims

they describe the different profile of two different types of flanges which they have reproduced and sell.

Thank you.

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[milandro]

Thank you.

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It would be nice if you ever come to make drawings of flanges to share them for those who want to have them made.

I have a good friend of mine with the know how to make these in wood , he says that he kan work from rough sketches but having a proper drawing (even better 3D co-ordinated ) would greatly help I am looking at 7 1/2 or 7 5/8 ( tops)

 

[J Williams]

It would be nice if you ever come to make drawings of flanges to share them for those who want to have them made.

I have a good friend of mine with the know how to make these in wood , he says that he kan work from rough sketches but having a proper drawing (even better 3D co-ordinated ) would greatly help I am looking at 7 1/2 or 7 5/8 ( tops)

If I have the dimensions of the internal oval and the width of the flange brim as well as the overall height of the flange itself I can easily make a 3D model.


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[milandro]

This is very nice to hear! Thank you!

 

[Hat and Rehat]

It would be nice if you ever come to make drawings of flanges to share them for those who want to have them made.

I have a good friend of mine with the know how to make these in wood , he says that he kan work from rough sketches but having a proper drawing (even better 3D co-ordinated ) would greatly help I am looking at 7 1/2 or 7 5/8 ( tops)

Tops?

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[Hat and Rehat]

It would be nice if you ever come to make drawings of flanges to share them for those who want to have them made.

I have a good friend of mine with the know how to make these in wood , he says that he kan work from rough sketches but having a proper drawing (even better 3D co-ordinated ) would greatly help I am looking at 7 1/2 or 7 5/8 ( tops)

That's a good idea. In fact, I was hoping you had located that magic book of yesteryear.

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[milandro]

Tops as in “ at most”

 

[Hat and Rehat]

It would be nice if you ever come to make drawings of flanges to share them for those who want to have them made.

I have a good friend of mine with the know how to make these in wood , he says that he kan work from rough sketches but having a proper drawing (even better 3D co-ordinated ) would greatly help I am looking at 7 1/2 or 7 5/8 ( tops)

I'll try to do something that might help a little, Milandro. I'll share some pictures of my flange blocks on and in front of graph paper. That's my own first step in trying to duplicate.

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[J Williams]

I'll try to do something that might help a little, Milandro. I'll share some pictures of my flange blocks on and in front of graph paper. That's my own first step in trying to duplicate.

I made a quick attempt as I was working on sketchup all day. This would be for one of my 7 3/8 Long Oval hats. The model is scalable but it also scales up the brim width with it which technically would change the flange if my math is correct, which is debatable.

 

[Hat and Rehat]

I made a quick attempt as I was working on sketchup all day. This would be for one of my 7 3/8 Long Oval hats. The model is scalable but it also scales up the brim width with it which technically would change the flange if my math is correct, which is debatable. View attachment 194045 View attachment 194046

I don't understand the model. I can't make out the figures. Could you enlarge them, please, for the visually challenged?

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[Hat and Rehat]

I made a quick attempt as I was working on sketchup all day. This would be for one of my 7 3/8 Long Oval hats. The model is scalable but it also scales up the brim width with it which technically would change the flange if my math is correct, which is debatable. View attachment 194045 View attachment 194046

Maybe I should wait to say more until I can see the numbers, but the axis being quantified only seem related to the flange oval, not the graduating curve radiuses in 360 degrees, or 180 assuming right and left will be the same on most men's' hats.
I never made it to trig. Maybe it's just above my paygrade

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[milandro]

@H&R ( seen your “ signature” you are looking and posting from a phone, a LM X410(FG)...you are not visually challenged.... your device is just too small, by the way, this is not a criticism to you in particular but disabling the Tapatalk free ad that tells anyone that you are using a particular brand and model of phone adds nothing to your forum contribution and is easily clicked away in the phone or tapatalk preferences, lots of people do this and I don’t understand it)

Probably you haven’t seen this in its full glory (since you are looking on a mobile device) but if you click to expand on the pictures (which are only “ thumbnails” ) they become positively huge . The measurements are also both metric and imperial .

@ Justin , thanks, this is great!

For the angle of sloping can I use for example the less curve lateral vision of the two published by Hatblacks Australia? Or is it a different angle yet? The inside hole of the doughnut size is perfect for me.

Some people whom work with wet felt may want to tie or use elastics or springs and so the may want to make a groove.

 

[Hat and Rehat]

@H&R

Probably you haven’t seen this (and you may be looking on a mobile device) but if you click to expand on the pictures (which are only “ thumbnails” ) they become positively huge . The measurements are also both metric and imperial .

@ Justin , thanks, this is great!

For the angle of sloping can I use for example the less curve lateral vision of the two published by Hatblacks Australia? Or is it a different angle yet? The inside hole of the doughnut size is perfect for me.

Some people whom work with wet felt may want to tie or use elastics or springs and so the may want to make a groove.

My phone didn't open anything to identify the factors.

When I tap the thumbnail image, I get it in a file that allows me to stretch it via the touchscreen, but the focus deteriorates as as the image expands.

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[J Williams]

Maybe I should wait to say more until I can see the numbers, but the axis being quantified only seem related to the flange oval, not the graduating curve radiuses in 360 degrees, or 180 assuming right and left will be the same on most men's' hats.
I never made it to trig. Maybe it's just above my paygrade

This might make more sense, 2D view of the side profile of the flange block. Like I said something I just spent 10 minutes on. I don't really have occasion to do any radius or curved measurements. I would have to look up how to do that with my program. Any work done like that is typically with half rounds or quarter rounds. Typically when I am 3D modeling I am designing kitchens and millwork items to be built. it's all square or fair curves taken based off rectangular dimensions, which is essentially how I made this. If you click on the image it should enlarge it as well.

 

[milandro]

Phones are not the best devices to use internet, maybe you can download the picture and then open on a computer.

See my comment about disabling the signature that tells everyone the model of phone and the app you use to access the forum

@Justin

Thanks ! I am sure that many people will be grateful to you!

 

[J Williams]

@H&R ( seen your “ signature” you are looking and posting from a phone, a LM X410(FG)...you are not visually challenged.... your device is just too small, by the way, this is not a criticism to you in particular but disabling the Tapatalk free ad that tells anyone that you are using a particular brand and model of phone adds nothing to your forum contribution and is easily clicked away in the phone or tapatalk preferences, lots of people do this and I don’t understand it)

Probably you haven’t seen this (and you may be looking on a mobile device) but if you click to expand on the pictures (which are only “ thumbnails” ) they become positively huge . The measurements are also both metric and imperial .

@ Justin , thanks, this is great!

For the angle of sloping can I use for example the less curve lateral vision of the two published by Hatblacks Australia? Or is it a different angle yet? The inside hole of the doughnut size is perfect for me.

Some people whom work with wet felt may want to tie or use elastics or springs and so the may want to make a groove.

It's pretty similar to the hatblocks australia image, I used that in combination with measuring one of my Open Roads. Like I said the model is easily scalable. But it does scale the whole thing, making the brim flange wider. I can probably figure out how to make it scalable while maintaining the 3" measurement but it may take some doing.

 

[milandro]

You are a prince among men Sir!

 

[J Williams]

I was going to DM these but it won't let me so I guess I will just post them. Some more for you Milandro. If you want to DM me your email address I can email you a copy of the model itself as well.

 

[Hat and Rehat]

This might make more sense, 2D view of the side profile of the flange block. Like I said something I just spent 10 minutes on. I don't really have occasion to do any radius or curved measurements. I would have to look up how to do that with my program. Any work done like that is typically with half rounds or quarter rounds. Typically when I am 3D modeling I am designing kitchens and millwork items to be built. it's all square or fair curves taken based off rectangular dimensions, which is essentially how I made this. If you click on the image it should enlarge it as well.

View attachment 194048

I'll have to do it on my laptop. It will be interesting to see what factors are being defined.
As I try to copy flanges, I've been perceiving them as a semi circle pie, with potentialy 180 slices.

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