Rare! John Cavanagh early Equestrian Derby c1928 Need to finish restoration

[Redfokker]

I don't throw the word RARE around loosely... this Derby is very early in the Cavanagh brand and production. Equestrian, so it is like a helmet. Liner and sweat are complete, need some stitching and cleaning. The features of this hat are really cool...size on sweat band - "Seven-One-Quarter" and a quilted liner. The early address of John Cavanagh, 247 Park Avenue, New York used from 1928 to the early 1930s. The Derby was made in the C&K factory which is also unusual and early. Showing showing "honest" patina, I'd leave it. This hat needs to be restored, not on my list right now. Asking $185 shipped. Probably would have some issues with international shipping due to the 'Rona issues, but willing to work with you.

 

[Redfokker]

I'll be watching my messages, or you can contact me by direct email - mike.dicianna@gmail.com

 

[Blare]

I don't throw the word RARE around loosely... this Derby is very early in the Cavanagh brand and production. Equestrian, so it is like a helmet. Liner and sweat are complete, need some stitching and cleaning. The features of this hat are really cool...size on sweat band - "Seven-One-Quarter" and a quilted liner. The early address of John Cavanagh, 247 Park Avenue, New York used from 1928 to the early 1930s. The Derby was made in the C&K factory which is also unusual and early. Showing showing "honest" patina, I'd leave it. This hat needs to be restored, not on my list right now. Asking $185 shipped. Probably would have some issues with international shipping due to the 'Rona issues, but willing to work with you. View attachment 229903 View attachment 229904 View attachment 229907 View attachment 229908 View attachment 229909 View attachment 229910

That’s a very cool liner in that one Mike

 

[Redfokker]

That’s a very cool liner in that one Mike

Lots of support and padding for when you fall off the horse. The lanyard ring at the back of the brim is cool too.

 

[Blare]

Lots of support and padding for when you fall off the horse. The lanyard ring at the back of the brim is cool too.

Yes good idea.. yours is a bit older than mine... but I think they both seen their rider thrown on multiple occasions

 

[Redfokker]

I'm going to put this up on Ebay tonight. What is the consensus about the price for this old Derby? Less/more? Prices on Ebay are kind of crazy, but I can't tell if they are selling.

 

[belfastboy]

I'm going to put this up on Ebay tonight. What is the consensus about the price for this old Derby? Less/more? Prices on Ebay are kind of crazy, but I can't tell if they are selling.

Might not be the best timing to be putting things up for sale. I have had a number of items, hats and non hat items that under normal circumstances would have sold quickly but it is pretty soft out there these days.

 

[Redfokker]

Might not be the best timing to be putting things up for sale. I have had a number of items, hats and non hat items that under normal circumstances would have sold quickly but it is pretty soft out there these days.

You are probably right. I'm trying to raise funds for a custom hat at Mike Miller's that is getting ready to be made.

 

[deadlyhandsome]

Might not be the best timing to be putting things up for sale. I have had a number of items, hats and non hat items that under normal circumstances would have sold quickly but it is pretty soft out there these days.

I’m surprised at how little inventory there is out there. I thought I’d see more hats hit the market as people try to raise capital, but so far I’ve noticed just the opposite. I hope that means things aren’t as bad as I feared.

As to this derby, it’s not my size, and even if it was I don’t know what I’d do with it, but I want it. It’s pretty darn cool. I think I’d leave it as it is and use it as a decoration.

 

[Blare]

I’m surprised at how little inventory there is out there. I thought I’d see more hats hit the market as people try to raise capital, but so far I’ve noticed just the opposite. I hope that means things aren’t as bad as I feared.

As to this derby, it’s not my size, and even if it was I don’t know what I’d do with it, but I want it. It’s pretty darn cool. I think I’d leave it as it is and use it as a decoration.

I was thinking that too... but also I’ve encountered sellers that posted things for sale earlier... that are afraid to ship the items until afterward... so I am sure that means they are not listing more items.

Also many sellers are unable to access their supply sources... garage sales and flea markets and antique shops.


And yes... it’s a very cool hat

 

[Redfokker]

I think I'll probably throw it out on Ebay today. Maybe some rich person will give it a home. I should go through the effort to restore it, but the lure of a new hat from Northwest Hats is too great.

 

[belfastboy]

I’m surprised at how little inventory there is out there. I thought I’d see more hats hit the market as people try to raise capital, but so far I’ve noticed just the opposite. I hope that means things aren’t as bad as I feared.

As to this derby, it’s not my size, and even if it was I don’t know what I’d do with it, but I want it. It’s pretty darn cool. I think I’d leave it as it is and use it as a decoration.

I agree, if I wasn't downsizing my 'collection' this would be a great piece to have.

 

[belfastboy]

I was thinking that too... but also I’ve encountered sellers that posted things for sale earlier... that are afraid to ship the items until afterward... so I am sure that means they are not listing more items.

Also many sellers are unable to access their supply sources... garage sales and flea markets and antique shops.


And yes... it’s a very cool hat

Undeterred I have been ordering lots of items on line. Delivery via post and UPS is very very slow. I ordered two books from Amazon that took a full 5 weeks BEYOND the posted delivery date.

 

[Rmccamey]

I was hoping to see some serious price drops as people try to reduce Inventory and get cash while they can but I suspect more are just holding on to what they've got until this blows over.

I’m surprised at how little inventory there is out there. I thought I’d see more hats hit the market as people try to raise capital, but so far I’ve noticed just the opposite. I hope that means things aren’t as bad as I feared.

As to this derby, it’s not my size, and even if it was I don’t know what I’d do with it, but I want it. It’s pretty darn cool. I think I’d leave it as it is and use it as a decoration.

 

[Redfokker]

If anyone here wants the Cav Derby shoot me an offer. Would like to keep this collector's item in the family. Otherwise, I'll toss it in "the Bay" later tonight.

 

[belfastboy]

Undeterred I have been ordering lots of items on line. Delivery via post and UPS is very very slow. I ordered two books from Amazon that took a full 5 weeks BEYOND the posted delivery date.

I have had other vendors refuse to use the USPS as that would require they leave their house. With UPS etc they come to your door and pick up.

 

[Redfokker]

I have had other vendors refuse to use the USPS as that would require they leave their house. With UPS etc they come to your door and pick up.

I have been the sacrificial lamb in out family, doing the shopping and going to the post office. I have no problem leaving the house, I just don't get crazy about it. You can't be so afraid of the 'Rona Monster that you totally isolate yourself, just take precautions. I look at each trip as a chance to dress up and make an event of it.

 

[belfastboy]

I have been the sacrificial lamb in out family, doing the shopping and going to the post office. I have no problem leaving the house, I just don't get crazy about it. You can't be so afraid of the 'Rona Monster that you totally isolate yourself, just take precautions. I look at each trip as a chance to dress up and make an event of it.
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You are a better man than I....I am the designated shopper in our house but I tend to wear the same sweats that adorn my body during my self isolation inside the house....no sense dressing up for the grocery store for me.

 

[Redfokker]

I have put this rare hat out on Ebay. Don't know if anyone is willing to take this restoration on. It would be a crazy cool display piece though. Price drop.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/184270632522?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649