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Pocket Watch - Knickerbocker

sonsie

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Hi,

I just discovered this fun site today. I was doing a search for pocket watches and was linked to here, so I figured it might be a good place to try and sell one which I believe belonged to either my grandfather or father, or quite likely, both.

[edit: I just realized I'd forgotten to attach the pics of the watch, but now I see that it says I can't attach. Wonder why?]

Asking price: $100
It's an open face Knickerbocker, and on the inside it says: 7 jewels, Double Roller, Safety Barrel Y. On the inside of the removed back is: Illinois Watch Case Co., ELGIN USA. Guaranteed 10 Years, Supreme, and then 7 numbers which I'm guessing is a serial number. There are also 3 different places where there are tiny initials and numbers scratched into it. Maybe repairer's initials and dates it was cleaned/repaired? I found another one just like it online which claims it's from the 1930's/40's - I have no reason to doubt that since its appearance is consistent with that time period. It's in very good condition with the usual surface scratches on the back. It's not working and since I don't know what to try, I don't know if it's something simple or more significant. I didn't want to experiment.

I haven't seen the inside of a watch in years and was surprised at how pristine it is. I suppose that's pretty normal since they're almost always closed up. I thought this one was especially pretty because it has vines with flowers engraved on a couple of the parts.

I have a number of other items for sale. In time, I'll get them on here, but in case someone is particularly interested in an item, I'll go ahead and list some of them now.

2 WWII army 'overseas' (Garrison) caps.
1 WWII army hat with a visor
like new WWII uniform belt, still smells like leather
WWII aluminum Nazi eagle emblem - the kind that goes on a hat/cap
assorted WWII army bars, sew-on patches, and a couple of medals
a WWII lapel pin - I've forgotten what it's called, but it signifies that you haven't much longer to wait until discharge - flying cow? pig? LOL
a few interesting lighters my dad used in WWII, including a Dunhill windproof

antique writing pen - the kind that was dipped into ink; quite dainty with a mother-of-pearl handle
several pieces of quality 'costume' jewelry (I hate that term - makes it sound like junk)
1 pr cufflinks - not sure of year, and forgot who made them. The site that I like that has so many jeweler marks went down suddenly a few minutes ago; seems like the name Parker or Rogers was involved; they were known for cufflinks.


There's quite a bit more, but until I look around on the site I'm not sure what's appropriate.

sonsie
 

scotrace

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Do spend time looking around. There's an enormous amount of information here from our 3000+ members. Welcome to The Fedora Lounge.

As a new member, you won't be able to send or receive private messages until you have reached/made 15 posts. This is easy: as you read your way around the threads, youll see many opportunities to respond with a "nice hat!"
It's no problem to make a series of short commentary-type posts to reach your magic 15 number. You'll also be able to upload pictures at that point.

For this list, it will help a lot to add sizes, and links to off-site pictures.
Count me as interested in knowing the size of the WWII visor cap, and more about the cufflinks and lighters.

Welcome!
 

sonsie

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Midwest, USA
Thanks for the welcome!


Here's the link to my favorite jewelry marks site:

http://www.chicagosilver.com/marksindex.htm

It probably has more than jewelry - that's all I was looking for when I discovered it so I didn't look further.

Biggest question right now is: How do I attach pictures? I've gone to a lot of trouble taking good shots of my items specifically for the internet, and this site doesn't give me the option. Down on the left, under "Posting Rules", it says: "You may not post attachments"

help?

sonsie edit: I think I figured out the attachments. Will give it a try after more coffee. LOL
 

Harp

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WWII Lapel Pin

That Second World War "waiting-to-be discharged" lapel pin is
called, "the Ruptured Duck.' (G.I. slang, 'nuff said):)
 

sonsie

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Midwest, USA
It is several hours later. You may be drinking too much coffee.
LOL Man, this is a lot of work. I have my sister's camera so am getting used to it and retaking endlessly. Plus trying to find these items or similar ones on the internet so I have a clue what to ask pricewise. Plus transferring the pics to another site. Just lots more details than I expected. I haven't finished with the lighters or cuffs, but the pics are there.

That Second World War "waiting-to-be discharged" lapel pin is called, "the Ruptured Duck.'
That's it! I remembered reading about it, and knew the slang didn't call it an eagle. LOL

So here are the descriptions and (hopefully) pics:

WWII US ARMY CAP, LEATHER VISOR, ENLISTED MAN - Leather brim, chin strap, and sweatband. Excellent condition with the exception of 8-10 moth holes ranging in diameter from 1/32" to 1/8", most not readily seen. Something has barely nibbled on the chinstrap. The length of the nibbled area is about 3/4" long and the nibbled area goes in to a depth of about 1 millimeter - just about a bite's worth. Label inside states size as 7 7/8.
Asking: $75

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WWII Army Overseas Cap: Army green, no lining, cotton headband. No size given, but worn by a person who wore another hat labeled 7 7/8. Needs cleaning (imo) and blocking/pressing, but I know antiques/specialty dealers often don't want anything cleaned. Asking: $15

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WWII Army Overseas Cap with Signal Corp Piping: Color such a dark green that it looks black. Orange or red and white piping. Leather headband and lined with satiny material. No size given, but worn by a person who wore another hat labeled 7 7/8. Would look better cleaned and pressed, but acceptable as is. Asking: $20

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Dunhill Windproof Lighter - I've never seen anything like it. With the wick hanging free, it seems like it would be awful messy, plus I would think the lighter fluid would evaporate quickly. But it's just like pictures I've seen on the internet, so apparently nothing's missing. Here's what's engraved into the side:
DUNHILL WINDPROOF PAT. PD'G MADE IN U.S.A.

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Stamped with "USA Evans Clipper"

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If there is such a thing as a GI Army Issue lighter, I'd guess this is one. It's solid army green in color, with no writing on it.

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The lighter above doesn't have any markings or brand name indicated. It's very solid and heavy.

sonsie
 

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