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My first bash...Stetson Open Road to Bogey

Kaleponi Craig

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Well, I tried and I think I may have come sort of close. I recently got an old Stetson Open Road (I'm sure it's pretty old, because the box it came in was the round kind with the leather strap around it. I don't think they've been making those for awhile) and didn't really want the Open Road look, but a Bogey style fedora. Well, after 10 minutes of steaming and bashing, this is the result. The only thing I'm having a lot of trouble with is the 'dimple' in the crown, if that's what you call it. Not bad, but I think I'll send it to Art anyway!;)

The Original:


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The Bogey Wannabe:

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Please let me know your thoughts. And how do you get that darned dimple in the crown???...Kaleponi Craig
 

scotrace

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Wow - that's amazing - ten minutes? Well done!

When desparate, I use a sleeve ironing board and slip the hat over the end. Then a cloth over the felt, and steam iron out small wrinkles like that dimple. Actually, in those pictures I don't think it's visible enough to worry about.

Great job!
 

K.D. Lightner

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I have an Open Road that I had a hatter convert from an LBJ style (which I don't really like) to a traditional fedora bash. Looks somewhat like yours.

Is that a silverbelly color?

karol
 
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Yup, I can make out that wrinkle at the upper right side of the crown, a reminder of the old cattleman's bash. I ran into the same thing, but repeated steaming and massaging has it all but gone. You'd really have to have it pointed out to you to notice it. I like that sleeveboard idea, scotrace. One old favorite has seen such abuse that it now has a coupla-three wrinkles and dimples where they don't belong. Any other tips for a successful project?
How 'bout an interior shot or two, Kaleponi Craig? We might get a better sense of its vintage that way.
 
That was a fairly expensive hat for the 1950s there. I hope you got a good deal on it but even if you paid more the felt was worth it.
You did fine in reblocking it. A professional reblock is always going to be better but you got the process started for sure. The only thing I would change that might hide the wrinkle at the back is to rake the block deeper at the back than at the front. Sort of like this but maybe a bit more:
1950Knox.jpg

That would likely minimize the wrinkle. Whatever the case it is a nice hat. :cheers1:

Regards to all,

J
 

Kaleponi Craig

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jamespowers said:
The only thing I would change that might hide the wrinkle at the back is to rake the block deeper at the back than at the front. Sort of like this but maybe a bit more:
1950Knox.jpg

That would likely minimize the wrinkle. Whatever the case it is a nice hat. :cheers1: J

Okay, I raked the back a bit, maybe not as much as you suggested. Still has a few wrinkles...

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KC
 
I think you can go a little lower than that. Does the crown hit the top of your head? Usually that is when I stop. ;) Then you put in the bump for the top of your head in the C Crown. That is just my preference though. I like a very raked look to my hats---just ask Art. :D :fedora:
I think that a little more and you would have it. What do you think of the raked look. After all it is really all about what you like. I think it looks nice as it is but it has room for more rake if you want to. :cheers1:

Regards,

J
 

Prairie Shade

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OUTSTANDING Make-over - Im going in the basement for my old Open Road or maybe just send it to Art for a re-do. INSPIRING
 
Prairie Shade said:
OUTSTANDING Make-over - Im going in the basement for my old Open Road or maybe just send it to Art for a re-do. INSPIRING

Do it! Do it! The hat is just languishing there and would like to be worn whatever style you decide. Get it out and make it look like a million.
Good job Craig. You brought a hat out of obscurity. ;) Does this mean the price of Open Roads is going to go up now? :p

Regards to all,

J
 

Kaleponi Craig

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tonyb said:
That's a honey there, Craig. If you don't mind disclosing: How'd you score it? And thanks for the pictures.

Where else? Ebay. They have Open Roads on there all the time, but they are getting pricey.

jamespowers said:
Good job Craig. You brought a hat out of obscurity. ;) Does this mean the price of Open Roads is going to go up now?

Thanks, JP, I've raked it a bit more and it looks good. The only thing I'm having trouble with is the crown, where I can't get a smooth surface on the inside groove, it's still has some wrinkles. Any suggestions?

And I'm afraid the price of these lids is already going up, as we've seen.

KC
 
Kaleponi Craig said:
Thanks, JP, I've raked it a bit more and it looks good. The only thing I'm having trouble with is the crown, where I can't get a smooth surface on the inside groove, it's still has some wrinkles. Any suggestions?

Steam and a rounded object. The wrinkles should iron out eventually. I use a ceramic egg that was once a salt shaker---once. ;)

Regards to all,

J
 

Clint_Southwood

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I think you did a good job on the hat. Is the crowned tapered though, I thought the OR were not tapered? What is raking exactly? Is that how deep the crown is bashed?
 

Kaleponi Craig

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Clint_Southwood said:
I think you did a good job on the hat. Is the crowned tapered though, I thought the OR were not tapered? What is raking exactly? Is that how deep the crown is bashed?

There is a small amount of taper, not much, probably as a result of all my steaming. The rake, I believe, is when you look from the side, how the back end swoops...
1950Knox.jpg
 

fedoraguy

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I think you can get rid of the back creases from the old bash by making the crown more of a diamond crease than just 'teardropping' it. The sides of the hat will have a bit sharper crease there, and should help in making theold bash disappear!
 

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