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How we dress and what we drive

StanleyVanBuren

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Everyone remembers the three-piece suit Sean Connery wore in Goldfinger. Or the tuxedo he slipped out of a wetsuit to reveal in the opening sequence. Or even his golf attire, as pictured above.

But what would any of these style choices be without proper transportation to go along with them? I'm speaking, of course, of the Aston Martin DB5. It's as much a part of the James Bond image as anything else in Goldfinger. We remember the car just as much as the clothes, if not more so. This particular year and model has reached such iconic status it seems to keep popping up again in even the most recent 007 incantations.

This brilliant choice of car was crucial, because style isn't just the clothes or the way you cut your hair, it's the complete image.

And that's something that people sometimes forget when concentrating so hard on getting one thing just right. The others may fall to the wayside. I recall a recent conversation I had with an acquaintance about style and fashion. Throughout the conversation he slowly rose up the pegs on the sartorial ladder as he impressed me with his knowledge of things armholes and the like. Then I asked what he drove and got a look like "Well what does that have to do with anything? Here we've been having a lovely conversation about clothes and you have to turn to something like cars. How dare you." I then learned that he drove a Ford Focus and didn't see how it mattered... And he plummeted right back down again to where he was when we started the conversation.

Same goes for guys who buy brilliant cars and then dress like crap, but that's not us, so I'll move on.

So, what is a classically-inspired guy to do about a car these days? Clearly we can't be driving around in Focuses (or is it Focii? -- forget trying to figure that one out). No, that will simply not do. And we could say fine, let's go buy cars from the Golden Era, and that'd be wonderful, but we'd be fools to drive those on a daily basis.

So again, I ask, what is a classically-inspired guy to do about a car these days? Armed with the internet, I set out to find an answer.

We'll start by assuming a number of variables. You're buying a car to be your daily driver. You're mostly going to use it for going to & from work, and maybe a few other places. Maybe you've got a girlfriend, maybe you've got a wife and kids, maybe you don't. But in any event, you're going to want to, at some point, carry around some other folks comfortably. You're not outrageously rich so don't worry, I won't be suggesting a Morgan, as nice as that might be.

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The question here is, now that you've got your suit, what reasonably priced, reasonably built, reasonably practical car can you go out and buy today that will reflect your sensibilities?

I live in Los Angeles so I'll start with what everyone in Los Angeles drives. The BMW 3-Series.

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Here is a car that has been tested by over 25 years of continuous research and development and refined over and over again by those very, very efficient Germans. BMW invented the small sport sedan and they still to this day own this class of vehicle. Audi, Lexus, and others come close, but the 3-series is still the car by which all the others are judged. I've driven one, and it was brilliant. Fantastic way to get from point A to point B. And starting at $32,400, it won't break the bank either. By all accounts, a perfect car.

It won't do.

See, the thing about the BMW is, well, look at it. It's a great looking car but apart from the round headlights, there's nothing classically-inspired about it. It's all very very modern, and that's all very nice, but it's just not what we're going for. Yes, it's more stylish than the Ford Focuses and Honda Civics and Toyota Corollas of the world, and yes, the smart money probably is on the BMW. But we're not here to talk smart, we're here to talk style.

Let's throw caution to the wind and see where it lands us.

After much searching, I found three cars that I think will fit the bill.

In third place...

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Cadillac CTS

OK, let's be honest. I'm not quite sure what Cadillac are doing here, but at least we can see that they are trying. They've got stacked headlights like Cadillacs from the 60s and their advertising would have us believe they are truly inspired by their heritage. Um, I'm not buying it. But this is how bleak things really are out there. The CTS is in third place because at least it looks more classically American than all the other boring rounded sedan offerings out there... just.

You can get it with a V6 that puts down, oh something around 255 horsepower and about that much torque (252 ft-lb), or so Cadillac claim. But that won't be too far off the mark which means the power is decent. Best thing is that you can get it with a 6-speed manual gearbox if you like. And they've bothered to make it a properly American car, which means it is rear-wheel drive, thank God, so apart from all the modern bits, it will handle and feel more like a vintage car than say, a Nissan Altima would.

It starts from under $30,000, just, so we're still in range of the 3-series BMW. And hopefully we're looking a tad better, just.

In second place:

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Jaguar S-Type

Yes, the design is distinctly British, but its built by Ford so you know it won't completely fall to bits after the first two blocks.

And... it's brilliant.

I was almost going to make this number one, and in fact, it's the one I'd have. The dual round headlights in front, the size and shape of the grill, all the lines from front to back; every single inch of this car is an aesthetic masterpiece. So is the 3-series, but this car is not overly modern. Not in the slightest! In fact, it's actually made to resemble the Jaguar MkII, which was sold from 1959-1967.

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Absolutely stunning.

Now, all lauding aside, this one is the most expensive. The base model alone will run you $48,335. I set an artificial limit of $50k upon myself before starting out and the S-type barely makes the cut. But look what you get for your money!

The specs aren't bad either; the base model gets a V6 which puts out 235 horsepower and just slightly less torque. So, less power than the Cadillac. I personally would have to stretch my budgetary limits and get the larger V8 engine, which fixes this, putting down a solid 300 horsepower. Either way you're stuck with a 6-speed automatic transmission, unlike the Cadillac, but the Jag is so refined, you won't care once you're driving it.

All in all, a fantastic looking car, purposefully inspired by a classic. Cannot go wrong here.

But...

In first place:

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Chrysler 300

Ah yes, you probably could have seen this coming. This is pretty much the only American car that truly gets the "retro" look right these days. And not only does it look great, it's a great car too, and popular. It's been a huge success since its launch and today, you'll see them everywhere.

And it's American, so it's that much more appropriate to our goal of finding a car that is truly inspired by classic Golden Era styling.

You can skip the base model and go right to the 300C, starting at $34,975, which has the 5.7 liter Hemi V8. This engine puts out a solid 340 horsepower and a whopping 390 ft-lb of torque, which pretty much stomps the other two. It kills the Jaguar on power for money, and the Cadillac... well, it just kills that outright. It's rear-wheel drive, of course... but wait, you can get it in all-wheel drive as an option as well. With it's cylinder-deactivation technology, it's not even a problem that you've got a V8 around town because the car is smart enough to just shut off 4 of the cylinders. So you still get decent mileage with it ever. Talk about fusing vintage and modern.

The Chrysler 300 is the car, hands down. It truly has style, and it has pretty much everything else you should be looking for in a car as well.

And, as the car salesman say, the only thing to decide now is the color. Which is quite simple, I'll give you a rule: if you wouldn't buy a suit that color, don't get a car in that color either.

Being a Los Angelino, I'd have the black.

So, remember the next time you don your suit and head on down to the Ford dealer to buy that next Focus. Think twice before you do. And, if you can afford to, get one of the cars on this list instead. They may not be the most practical things out there, but probably neither are the clothes you're wearing. And these two should match.

After all, what did we all think when we saw James Bond driving a Ford Mondeo in Casino Royale?

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I know my stomach didn't sit right until I saw him safely behind the wheel of an Aston Martin DB5 again.

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Miss Neecerie

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Maybe you only want male opinions....but frankly...in Los Angeles, with -any- notable commute at all, you add quite a bit to cost of -any- of those cars...with the price of gas these days....

Yes...image is important...but then again, so is being able to afford to put gas in the car, and get decent gas milage....

oh wait...I forgot, this is the FL fantasy land, where we are all rich....

If so...then I would like my Mini now please....
 

happyfilmluvguy

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Miss Neecerie said:
Yes...image is important...but then again, so is being able to afford to put gas in the car, and get decent gas milage....

Definitely. Common sense comes first, then find a looker. If it's safe, I'll take it. But if I had to choose, it would be a Jeep Wrangler or a '65 Mustang.
 

Dan G

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No Mustang for me... I want a '70 RoadRunner with the 440 Six Pack!!!lol
This was my Grandpa's car, and someday, we are going to build another just like it....:)
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Pilgrim

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I sold cars for a living for a few years - and it was actually a pretty decent job.

One of the first things I learned is that people do not drive the car they NEED (or the Checker cab would never have gone out of business), they drive the car they WANT.

Sports cars, SUVs, mini-vans, hybrids, pickups and econo-squeakers all say something different about the owner. But in every case (unless the car is an absolute survival requirement, which it very seldom is), the statement they make is intentional. Even if they drive a rusty junker, that's a value statement.

For instance, when I see a Saturn in front of me, my reaction is the same as it was to VW Microbuses in the 60's and 70's: slow driver, pass them as soon as possible. I'm seldom wrong - Saturns are generally bought and driven by sensible people who see no need to drive 4 MPH over the speed limit as I usually do.

My summer driver is a 1983 280ZX Turbo, but the other half of the time, it's a 1999 Chevy Blazer in my alma mater WSU's colors.

I wear my fedora or Open Road (Cattleman's bash) cheerfully in either one. As I do in my wife's BMW 325I, and my daughter's 1999 Jeep Cherokee.

But you will NEVER under any circumstances find me or my wife owning (and probably never even driving) a minivan. That statement is out of the question.

Purely personal preference.
 

Flivver

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Pilgrim said:
One of the first things I learned is that people do not drive the car they NEED (or the Checker cab would never have gone out of business), they drive the car they WANT.

I work as an auto industry analyst and part of my job is trying to understand why people make the vehicle choices they do. Pilgrim is absolutely right. Many people base their vehicle decisions on WANT rather than NEED.

A lady in a research clinic I once attended summed it up best. She said "I view my car as a picture frame around ME".

That being said, there is some good news coming for FLers that want cars to go along with their classic personal look. The success of cars like the Mini and the Chrysler 300 has not gone un-noticed by the industry at large. Over the next few years, more cars will be introduced that use classic design elements interpreted in a thoroughly modern way. And, who knows, more elegant cars might cause their owners to dress more elegantly...we can only hope!
 

Tony in Tarzana

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I only get tickets in 4-cylinder cars, so they're out.

Seriously, I've never gotten a ticket in a V-8 or a 6 or even my Mercedes 5 cylinder Diesel, but I've gotten at least one ticket in each of my 4-cylinder rides.

Oh, and in the last few days I saw an Aston DB6 and a late '50s Mercedes 300SL Roadster just driving around. That's one thing I love about Los Angeles, sooner or later you'll see an example of practically every car ever made. :)

I even saw a Russian Zil limo once. :eek: lol
 

Miss Sis

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pretty faythe said:
PT Cruiser
Car of today with a look of yester year.
For some reason I am just insanely in love with them. It's deffinately my next car, cross my fingers. ;)

I love the styling of the front, but the back of them looks like a hearse to me. Shame - how did they get the front right but the back so, so wrong???

We have a really horrible Peugeot 106 car that we inherited from my BFs brother. It is a super chavvy - boy racer type car with spoiler etc. It is hillarious to see people pulling up next to us and doing a double take to find us dressed all 30s/40s with big band music coming out the speakers instead of the 18 year old boy and his mate in the front seats.

However to rectify things, we also have a 1935 Riley Kestrel.

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Brmmmm! Brmmmmmmmm!
 

Daisy Buchanan

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I'm very happy with my Volvo S40 Turbo. It's reliable and drives really well for a sedan. My Grandpa was in the luxury/vintage car business, and my Dad is somewhat a car fanatic, so I've had the opportunity to drive/drive in quite a few different brands.
If dreams did come true I would own a Mercedes Gullwing. I hope that one day I will be able to pay my Dad back for all of his love and support by buying him a 55 Mercedes SL convertible. My Grampa's business was to buy banged up luxury cars and rebuild them. The summer before my Dad left for college, he and my Grampa rebuilt a 55 SL convertible together. I know it would make my Dad so happy to have that car again. Since then he's had other SL's, he's driving a CLK Kompressor right now, but he often gets quite nostalgic and says that nothing drives like his old SL. I'd also love to buy him a vintage T-Bird. It's so funny, I used to be all embarrassed when my Dad would pick me up at school in one of his classics. Now I'd give anything to have one of them!

One car that wasn't mentioned in the list was the Lexus SC. I know, this isn't a "classic" brand. But, this car is incredible, it screams James Bond. It has a nifty retractable hard top. The center console is so cool. When you get in the car it just looks like beautiful wood paneling. But, if you need the radio or GPS, you push a button and the would paneling slides up into the dash revealing all sorts of toys. The GPS system pops up out of the dashboard.
This car drives beautifully, and it is powerful.
So, if we're talking about dream cars that are modern and have a James Bond look to them I'd choose the Lexus SC
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Nashoba

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Oh to own a classic....but alas, I drive a 1997 Nissan Sentra and my husband has 98 Tacoma. Although Lately I've been driving the truck because the check engine light came on in the car and with the hubby in Iraq it's honestly easier to just drive the truck than bring myself to do the right thing and take the car in. It does cause some double takes though when I get out of my husband's big ole truck wearing a 40's dress or suit with gloves, heels, and done up hair. I think it confuses them :). I would love one of the thunderbirds though, the new ones that have the vintage look to them...I think they're gorgeous. I kind of like the PT cruiser but it looks too much like someone chopped the end off of them. My husband likes them though....maybe that's my key to steering him to the vintage world....cars....
 
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drafttek

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If this is FL Fantasyland where we're all "Filthy Rich with Multimillionaire x3", as my IT geek likes to put it, make mine a Willys. With 5-star plate and an Anti-Theft Device, .50-caliber, Model M2HB mounted on top, of course.

Point to anyone who gets the reference...

Like this?
<<< See Avatar. Though I don't have the Five Star plate or .50 cal yet.

I have to agree with the original post though. As I was reading it all I kept thinking of was the 300, and I was pleased to find it number one. It is truly an awesome car. I was working at a Chrysler dealership when they debuted. Very impressive.
 

Paisley

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Time was when I was concerned about the image of my car. No longer. I recently bought a 2003 Toyota Camry and I'm very happy with it. It's smooth, comfortable and reliable. (It also cost way less than some of the snazzier cars out there).

But I can see the point here: a Prius just wouldn't be me. (Not that there's anything wrong with a Prius. :) )
 

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