double breasted waist seam jacket

[cpdv]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Vintag...pt=Vintage_Men_s_Clothing&hash=item2589e9eb02
I've never seen an advertisement for one like this it has a very interesting pattern to the fabric too.

 

[Papperskatt]

Cool fabric!

The shoulders are a bit too wide for me, but the fabric is interesting so I'm gonna watch this and see what happens. Maybe I'll put in a bid towards the end.

Does anyone have any suggestions for what trousers to wear with this? [huh]

 

[cpdv]

Cream flannels oh the slim teen variety with a lot of shoe showing if you can find them.

 

[Nick D]

The pockets look false, the flaps were laid flat on the fronts and stitched down. Also no attempt at pattern matching. Could this be a costume piece from a period drama (an older one, that is)?

 

[cpdv]

Beats me, it is certainly an odd one.

 

[Qirrel]

The pockets look false, the flaps were laid flat on the fronts and stitched down.

What makes you say this?

 

[Nick D]

It looks like the flap was put on right sides together, the raw edge sewn, then turned down and stitched across the top. It just doesn't look like a normal pocket finish. I may be wrong, that's just how I read the photos.

 

[herringbonekid]

that's the type of flap often done above a patch pocket on a sports jacket.
the whole jacket is a bit of a puzzle.

 

[herringbonekid]

here's a single breasted jacket also with the Victorian type back, dated 1922:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Vintag...pt=Vintage_Men_s_Clothing&hash=item43c5be25c7

... these types of backs really make it harder to date a garment.

 

[Flat Foot Floey]

Isn't this just a frock coat? In germany we call them Gehrock. The pop up on german ebay frequently (in black)

Here is a singlie breasted one...
http://collections.lacma.org/node/213840

 

[Papperskatt]

Isn't this just a frock coat? In germany we call them Gehrock. The pop up on german ebay frequently (in black)

Here is a singlie breasted one...
http://collections.lacma.org/node/213840

Yeah, I'd say it's a frock coat too. A very rare informal type of frock coat, however, with the short length, pockets and non-black colour, which makes it a bit more interesting than the usual formal black ones.

 

[herringbonekid]

ok, it's a just frock coat made from jazzy early 20s fabric.

next !

 

[Flat Foot Floey]

Haha sorry. I love the fabric too. I just wondered about the "waist seam coat" thingy.

 

[herringbonekid]

quite right Flo... there were the waist seam suit jackets of the late teens (usually with s single vent) but this isn't one of those.

what i meant on the previous page was that frock coats are hard to date because they always look (at first glance) Victorian or Edwardian when they might be later.

 

[Nick D]

that's the type of flap often done above a patch pocket on a sports jacket.
the whole jacket is a bit of a puzzle.

Yes, that's why I figured there was no pocket mouth under it. Very odd.

 

[Fastuni]

Should be no problem to ask the seller whether there are real hip pockets.

 

[Nick D]

The pockets are functional, so an unusual method of sewing?

 

[cpdv]

And this is part of the reason I posted this I get to see what you gentlemen think of things.

 

[Fastuni]

The pockets are functional, so an unusual method of sewing?

I wouldn't call it unusual... just more simple. I have seen similar pocket-flap treatment on overcoats.
I don't think this is a theater-piece, but a garment that should be seen rather as a type of short-coat rather than suit-jacket.

 

[Baron Kurtz]

Yes. There was a wonderful badly listed suit I was outbid at £75 on eBay several years ago by a well known vintage dealer (and member here). It had a label from a Drury Lane costumers in their post 1943 iteration (1943 was incorporated into the company name). It was a "frock coat suit" - trousers and frock jacket - in brown herringbone tweed.

Mysteriously it reappeared a week later on eBay sans label and was fraudulently sold as "true vintage Victorian/Edwardian fantastic tweed suit" and went for £700 or so.

This one's (fro the OP) a beauty. Love the details and fabric.

what i meant on the previous page was that frock coats are hard to date because they always look (at first glance) Victorian or Edwardian when they might be later.