Current fashion

[dr greg]

We all seem love knocking it, but I had to share this Obit, it's quite funny and sad at the same time
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/fashionistas-are--freaks-phoneys-and-airheads-20100215-o1hj.html

 

[BinkieBaumont]

"poor Alex was no different to any of us just trying to get by, giving people what they wanted, which was expected of him, he was the enfant terrible with his skinhead ways, course/rude/nasty , and east end attitude, but deep down he was a 'Softie' poor thing was out of place, too poofy for "Eastenders" and not quite the civilised "it" boy for Givenchy"

 

[Geesie]

This wholly pointless and sordid industry has a highly inflated opinion of itself, argues George Pitcher

Yes, but they're not really bothering me, so why should I care enough to degrade them?

To be even tangentially exposed to it is to enter a world of phoneys and airheads, mutually massaging the pointlessness of each other's professional existence, self-regarding to a degree that would make Narcissus blush, committed only to ripping off a market made docile by cocaine, champagne and the odd canape.

And nobody is making you be exposed to it, or care.

 

[Miss Neecerie]

Yes, but they're not really bothering me, so why should I care enough to degrade them?



And nobody is making you be exposed to it, or care.

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I really do wish that instead of posting yet more rubbish -criticizing- others fashion sense....that people would stop for a minute and focus on something positive. We have become a group of people who sit here griping at others all day.....how -positive and productive-

I mean honestly who the heck -cares- what modern fashion is doing.....were you going to go buy a designer outfit?

 

[Carlisle Blues]

I mean honestly who the heck -cares- what modern fashion is doing.....

I care.... I enjoy the world of fashion.

Moreover, there is nothing wrong or negative with critical thinking and making judgments based upon what is offered in the market today while comparing the fashions or styles of yesterday.

 

[Miss Neecerie]

I care.... I enjoy the world of fashion.

Moreover, there is nothing wrong or negative with critical thinking and making judgments based upon what is offered in the market today while comparing the fashions or styles of yesterday.

I would agree...

But I would posit that picking an article that mocks something...and posting it in order to elicit more mocking and name calling is not 'critical thinking' nor discussion of the actual fashions.

It's merely an excuse for more 'wow we dress great, and those crazy people are freaks' talk.


as the very vintage song so aptly says


You've got to accentuate the positive
Eliminate the negative
And latch on to the affirmative
Don't mess with Mister In-Between

You've got to spread joy up to the maximum
Bring gloom down to the minimum
Have faith or pandemonium's
Liable to walk upon the scene



Is calling people freaks -really- a positive thing?

 

[Geesie]

Today's styles aren't that connected to Alex McQueen. The column even says that,

a Savile Row seamster who got lucky creating absurd costumes that no real women, outside the swollen bubo of haute couture, would ever wear in real life.

This isn't Ralph Lauren or Hugo Boss. It's Alexander McQueen, his stuff is not seen outside runways or awards show red carpets.

 

[Carlisle Blues]

I would agree...

But I would posit that picking an article that mocks something...and posting it in order to elicit more mocking and name calling is not 'critical thinking' nor discussion of the actual fashions.

I was not discussing the article. My comment was regarding your statement.

Upon further reading this is what I consider the spirit of the article is or at least what my "critical" reading of the article provides me:

"Since the untimely death of Diana, Princess of Wales, celebrity-mourning has got really out of hand.

The death of anyone well-known in any supposedly glamorous industry is treated as a national tragedy, when in reality their achievements should be recorded in the obituary columns alongside architects and civil servants. Otherwise, we have no reverential slack to take up when someone of real national importance expires.

And the true damage is done to the reputations of flaky former celebs themselves. Had McQueen's life been recorded in a measured and appropriate way, it would have retained some dignity.

As it is, we've had to consider the silhouette of trousers as though it ranks with the irrigation of Sudan or a cure for cancer.

And that just makes him look a complete prat."

 

[Warbaby]

The best thing in that article was this:

"...the fashion industry...is one of the least attractive legal activities on earth, populated by weirdo artists, freakish PRs and emaciated and mentally disordered models. To be even tangentially exposed to it is to enter a world of phoneys and airheads, mutually massaging the pointlessness of each other's professional existence, self-regarding to a degree that would make Narcissus blush, committed only to ripping off a market made docile by cocaine, champagne and the odd canape. Fashion is a chimera of a real industry, the absence of which would harm no one other than its self-serving catamites and courtesans. It is a disgusting place to make a living."

I think that sums it up perfectly.

 

[Carlisle Blues]

^^^
No more than any other industry and to think some of us clearly pay close attention to what we wear, and the clothes we choose based on an era or period in history. Such clothing was/is produced by those members of the industry that this article chooses to ridicule.

 

[dr greg]

bickering?

I posted the article because

A: I'd never heard of this bloke
B: I think it's an amusingly caustic diatribe with some interesting things to say hidden in there and thought others might also agree.
C: There are and have been lots of views expressed in this forum about modern fashion.
D: The thought that someone can be feted for glamourising 'plumber's cleavage' is a revealing comment on today's media driven culture....need I go on?

 

[Talbot]

Its not celebrity mourning until someone proclaims him as a hero.

Having said that, they might have. I just didn't read the article that closely

 

[miserabelle]

I wish these articles would stop crediting the Bumsters as his defining achievement - they were something that he showed in the early nineties that were a bit of a laugh, a bit shocking, and yes probably did help to bring waistlines down to hip level almost a decade later. But they were hardly the pinnacle of his career.

His tailoring was absolutely beautiful and structured in a really interesting way. Whilst yes some of his work was avant-garde a lot of it was just plain beautiful, pieces that yes you would wear. If you look at some of the pieces illustrating this article then you'll see what I mean.

As a designer I'm also kind of offended by people who don't think of fashion as "real art" just because it isn't on a canvas or in a gallery.

In conclusion: bah humbug. He was an amazing designer and someone I really looked up to.

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[BellyTank]

I met him once, a very nice chap.


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[Carlisle Blues]

I wish these articles would stop crediting the Bumsters as his defining achievement - they were something that he showed in the early nineties that were a bit of a laugh, a bit shocking, and yes probably did help to bring waistlines down to hip level almost a decade later. But they were hardly the pinnacle of his career.

His tailoring was absolutely beautiful and structured in a really interesting way. Whilst yes some of his work was avant-garde a lot of it was just plain beautiful, pieces that yes you would wear. If you look at some of the pieces illustrating this article then you'll see what I mean.

As a designer I'm also kind of offended by people who don't think of fashion as "real art" just because it isn't on a canvas or in a gallery.

In conclusion: bah humbug. He was an amazing designer and someone I really looked up to.

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I cannot agree more with you. To tear down someone's creation because it does not appeal to the person is rude and unnecessary.

Talent is a commodity that each is given in his/her's own measure. Rather than castigate someone for their craft I choose to enjoy what they have created or remain silent.

In fashion, to my eye, the canvass is the body and the "paint" is the design and fabric.

These are beautiful

 

[Lefty]

We live for negativity. Check out the Steamer Trunk threads on places you do want to go vs. don't want to go, and that Hat threads on the nicest comment vs. the dumbest comment. The difference in both views and posts is staggering.

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I really do wish that instead of posting yet more rubbish -criticizing- others fashion sense....that people would stop for a minute and focus on something positive. We have become a group of people who sit here griping at others all day.....how -positive and productive-

I mean honestly who the heck -cares- what modern fashion is doing.....were you going to go buy a designer outfit?

 

[Matt Deckard]

Looks looks looks and creations that people do or don't like.

Have we forgotten that we ourselves are oddballs?

When I came on board the vintage scene, it was a scene founded by freaks.

Tattooed freaks with stomper boots and spiked hair that came from that extreme and landed on this one.

Many of my dancer friends and my Deco friends have Facebook and Myspace pages chalk full of miscreant looks, and what it tells me is that we are not really above or below any of these people who break tradition by hitting a supermarket at midnight wearing a bathrobe and Doc Martins and plate earrings that create a massive hole in the lobes... instead of a 50s dress.

The idea of someone having a fashion extreme that they follow which sets them apart is a flag for that persons will. And luckily for those people who like to decorate their body to extremes, everyone judges others, so those looks aren't lost, they are studied and remarked upon.

I've been rushed out of a rockabilly concert in Hollywood once for being a known jitterbug. Pompadours and high cuffed jeans telling me I didn't belong at a club because I wore a 3 piece suit. Bias and judgement are part of why we wear what we wear. If you aren't looking to make some kind of statement you'd be wearing Target bought jeans and a black tee with a logo, the uniform of the land.

When it comes to new looks or ideas. Tattoos or funky jewelry, that in the end will maim the face or body in some respect... well too each adult their own. Young minds, fresh ideas... be tolerant. But know that they are extremes and will be seen as such, and that sometimes they are definitely reasons to garner ridicule. The world doesn't revolve around an idea of total acceptance for all which is a burden to those wanting to be accepted regardless of how they look. The world does have a set of social norms that have been created and entrenched. When those norms are broken, you can't claim that you are not being an oddball, because being an oddball is the reason for going after an extreme look. Like a flower print summer dress at a Damned concert (I wish it still fit).

Alexander made a world in his designs and in doing so made a lot of women feel and look beautiful. He had his view of style and fashion, and it will be missed. Bending style is what those that stand out in this world do.

Sticking with vintage wears like we often do in my mind is kind of being a stick in the mud when it comes to style.

Sticking in the mud,

 

[JimWagner]

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[Cobden]

I think the article, despite being negetive about haute couture (which I agree with many posters is an artform in which MacQueen was a premier artist, and should be judged as such), he was in many ways right to critique the UK press's coverage of the event: the press did not judge him as an artist, but merely reported on it because he was a celebrity - a crucial difference, especially considering that in the UK one needs not have any discernable talent to reach celebrity status (perhaps best personified by Jade Goody); and they certainly did go overboard with the coverage, with Sky News stationing a camera outside of his house so they could film the body being taken out, then basically stalking the ambulance in which he was being taken away in with a helicopter - which I'm sure even the higher echelons of fashion would judge as somewhat unneccessary, and I think everyone can agree as being tasteless.

 

[Marc Chevalier]

Is calling people freaks -really- a positive thing?

"We need to 'reset' the world with vintage freaks." -- Rin Tanaka http://inspirationla.com/



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