Can someone help identifying this jacket?

[Davisleathernyc]

I recently purchased this jacket via ebay, I thought it was a cal, but the more I look at it the more it resembles something else. Can anyone identify this jacket? Thanks!

 

[photo2u]

Looks like a Cal. Can we see the inside? Does it have collar snaps?

 

[Davisleathernyc]

Looks like a Cal. Can we see the inside? Does it have collar snaps?

No collar snaps, plain black lining with no label. What makes me question the origin of this jacket is the fact that there's no yoke on the back

 

[Will Zach]

Is there mouton fur in the sleeves?

 

[Davisleathernyc]

Is there mouton fur in the sleeves?

Nope! The only thing that resembles Cal construction is the pockets

 

[JMax]

View attachment 493104 No collar snaps, plain black lining with no label. What makes me question the origin of this jacket is the fact that there's no yoke on the back

My old Cal. No back yoke, no collar snaps.

I’ll take a better look inside later tonight or tomorrow.

 

[JMax]

 

[JMax]

 

[photo2u]

The jacket does not exhibit normal construction practices consistent with Cal. Leathers. First, the lining looks too flat. Also, I have never seen Cal's with the lining's fold in the center. Furthermore, the center leather piece at the top of the collar is not Cal type. The leather lower back panel's sewing construction finishings do not match Cal's. I have seen Late '60-'90s straight zip Cal's with the traditional two snaps at the center with one at the end of the collar close to the main zip.
I am including an image that points out several of my observations.

Nice jacket never less.

 

[Davisleathernyc]

View attachment 493148

My old Cal. No back yoke, no collar snaps.

I’ll take a better look inside later tonight or tomorrow.

Wow, I don’t think I’ve ever seen one without the yoke. When did cal make the red label? Thanks

 

[photo2u]

Yoke was not used in some straight Cal's. Here is a Cal image that is very similar to yours. Regarding the red label, that was the first Cal leather label from the late 40s to early 50s. Before them, it was star gloves. Some Star Gloves had a military lining before they went with the nice shiny lining they currently still use.

 

[Will Zach]

That piece of leather on the inside just below the collar is very similar to my jacket that has been tentatively identified as a Monarch. Also no label. I would say that unless someone has seen a Cal with a similar piece of leather, it's doubtful it is a Cal. It is a great old jacket, however, and just shows me that my ebay search strategy sucks.

 

[JMax]

That piece of leather on the inside just below the collar is very similar to my jacket that has been tentatively identified as a Monarch. Also no label. I would say that unless someone has seen a Cal with a similar piece of leather, it's doubtful it is a Cal. It is a great old jacket, however, and just shows me that my ebay search strategy sucks.

I have. No idea if it’s just a custom “one- off” or an aftermarket fix. The totality of the jacket needs to be looked at. There are some things that look a bit off, but with Cals, who knows. And I’ve owned Cals without the Chewbacca-lined cuffs. Most had no labels. Unless we can ID it as something else, it’s a Cal. Haha. Whatever, awesome jacket. I always would stop and take a sneaky peaky when I passed this jacket on eBay.

 

[Davisleathernyc]

I have. No idea if it’s just a custom “one- off” or an aftermarket fix. The totality of the jacket needs to be looked at. There are some things that look a bit off, but with Cals, who knows. And I’ve owned Cals without the Chewbacca-lined cuffs. Most had no labels. Unless we can ID it as something else, it’s a Cal. Haha. Whatever, awesome jacket. I always would stop and take a sneaky peaky when I passed this jacket on eBay.

I was surprised that it stayed up for so long, I have a feeling it’s made of really good leather but I’m not sure. I’ll post more pics when it arrives.

 

[JMax]

I was surprised that it stayed up for so long, I have a feeling it’s made of really good leather but I’m not sure. I’ll post more pics when it arrives.

I look forward to it. The hide did look nice.