You're absolutely correct, as that's the only way to get the proper curl so that the sides and the back end up with the same visual width. And I did deconstruct a Derby to discover this. It one that was heavily damaged.
The Knox Forty was offered as early as 1925 and was a clear beaver hat. This could easily be a 1930s or early 1940s hat. I feel the brim is too wide for 1920s, but that’s just a guess.
Thanks for posting. My dating guide says these liner tips “perhaps showed up in the late-1940s,” so now we can say for certain they showed up mid-decade.
That edge looks think and bulbous. Is there a Cavanagh Edge hiding under the binding?
Just a point of clarification, as this thread is taking about two different things. First, there is the John B. Stetson Company, which never went out of business (they just stopped manufacturing their own hats) and still owns the Stetson name and other trademarks. They only license the...
Very nice. It’s a women’s hat. The cloth sweatband, sized in inches as women’s hats were, the milliner’s code (as opposed to hatter’s code) tag, and the elastic chin string, are the dead-giveaways. But no one else besides you will ever know!
Nice collection, but several inaccuracies. All of the top hats are silk, not beaver. Beaver wasn’t used for hatter’s plush since the 1830s, though there may be few exceptions.. Also, the Cavanagh silk hat was the one JFK wore to his inauguration, not the Dobbs. It was made expressly for him for...
The Carter sweatbands seem to be used by Cavanagh mostly on homburgs, as I have quite a few from the same era with them. I think I only have one non-homburg with one.
No worries. It's a mistake commonly seen on eBay, with silk hats being labeled by sellers as beaver, when beaver plush hadn't really been used since the 1830s., though nutria plush was used as a silk substitute in the WWI era.
I had the same problem with my straw Milan Stratoliner. I ordered 7 ⅜, and it's too big. Most of the felt Stetsons I got in 2020 and 2021 fit well, though.
Well, crap. I was excited to buy this original pencil drawing, obviously the preliminary sketch for a famous advertisement from 1930, but I just got an email from the seller that they can't find it in their inventory. This would have been the next best thing to having the original painting...
I haven’t bought hats off the ‘Bay for a while but decided to go for this one. I have Cavanagh Derbies but only one in my size, so now I have two. Both are from the ‘40s. However, this one is rather musty and looks like mold or something on the sweatband. The photos didn’t really show this or...
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