a dandified interior certainly helps with the whole look, but isn't essential. Beau Brummell remained a dandy in the dress sense after he drifted in poverty.
A.C. i have a more than average interest in clothes. heck, i even make clothes. but i still don't qualify as a dandy.
there has to be some distinction between having an interest in clothes , dressing well and being a dandy.
i don't even think Gary Cooper was a dandy. he was just a very well...
i didn't get any screen-shots of men's trousers from this film but they're all wide.
i love the 20s women's looks in this film, both the mannish ones as above, and the feminine satiny ones that Louise Brooks wears.
there's a lot of great looks for women from the 20s - not just the obvious...
from 'Pandora's Box' 1929, directed by Georg W Pabst:
quite lightweight looking peaked lapel:
jazzy fabric:
big buttons and lots of them:
button-less and belted for the dames:
for me, there has to be a level of ostentatiousness reached before you enter the 'dandy' zone. so this chap on the left is definitely dandy:
whereas Ray Chu, even though he has a flouncy handkerchief and untied bowtie, isn't.
i'm not sure which images you're referring to, but generally you can't find modern ties as short as ties from the 20-40s.
elaborate knots which take up more fabric look thicker... which looks more modern.
there aren't many ways to hide a long thin end. either in the shirt or down the trouser. :o
oh, and if you follow Italian style it's de rigueur to set the fat end an inch below the waistband, and the thin end.... wherever it ends up after that:
Mr. Purple, you seem to have stumbled upon a vintage / modern divide rather than a U.S. / Euro divide.
Lots of modern Europeans also wear longer ties. those who prefer the shorter tie length tend to be those who only buy vintage ties.
the publication of this book ...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dandy-The-Return-Elegant-Gentleman/dp/3899554841
... made me wonder if any of you Loungers think of yourselves as 'dandies' ?
i personally don't, yet the book includes several people who i wouldn't class as dandies either; Ray Chu who...
here's a suit i used to own that is a very similar cut and fabric to the one for sale. no soft roll. a very firmly defined roll line:
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?53383-Show-us-your-British-suits&p=1312703&viewfull=1#post1312703
3 roll 2 is very much a U.S. thing.
i know what you're saying A.C., but in this case i don't think it's a 3 roll 2. these type of three button Brit 40s jackets are invariably rolled to the top button, and stiffly so.
if you undid the top button it would hold its shape there. like this:
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