Belt or Beltless

Poltung · Thursday at 4:36 PM

Guys, I'm facing a crisis.

Only 1 jacket must remain, which one would you keep?

I love them both, and would like your input.

Both are from Sugar Cane, Indian motorcycle lineup, horsehide.

A) Perfecto with the belt, dyed through, smooth grained with a shiny "dull" topcoat. The horsehide is 1.4-1.5mm thick, but pliable.

B) Beltless perfecto, "yellow teacore", pebbly grain with a topcoat that is less dull but wears away to show the yellow leather. Less thick horsehide and a bit more pliable, about 1.2-1.3mm.

Tom71 · Thursday at 5:54 PM

Not an option to keep both?

If you only get to keep one, I’d take the black fade-2-yellow. Slightly more fitted, great grain, interesting dye-job.

Boyo · Thursday at 5:56 PM

keep either one and keep the belt.. the loops are there for a reason.. some days belt on some days belt off

Poltung · Thursday at 6:35 PM

Boyo said:
keep either one and keep the belt.. the loops are there for a reason.. some days belt on some days belt off

Belt can't be removed, and the beltless one can't have the belt seamlessly inserted into the kidney back panel

Poltung · Thursday at 6:37 PM

Tom71 said:
Not an option to keep both?

If you only get to keep one, I’d take the black fade-2-yellow. Slightly more fitted, great grain, interesting dye-job.

Not an option no, I'm trying to have a viable active rotation by trimming down my collection, and avoid overlapping jackets.
These here are my "1 Perfecto".

The Lost Cowboy · Thursday at 6:48 PM

Poltung said:
Guys, I'm facing a crisis.

Only 1 jacket must remain, which one would you keep?

I love them both, and would like your input.

Both are from Sugar Cane, Indian motorcycle lineup, horsehide.

A) Perfecto with the belt, dyed through, smooth grained with a shiny "dull" topcoat. The horsehide is 1.4-1.5mm thick, but pliable.

B) Beltless perfecto, "yellow teacore", pebbly grain with a topcoat that is less dull but wears away to show the yellow leather. Less thick horsehide and a bit more pliable, about 1.2-1.3mm.

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The beltless one is awesome! It looks fantastic and you wear it very well.

Plus, personally, unless a person rides motorcycles, I see no reason for a belt.

Poltung · Friday at 1:18 AM

The divide is real!

Maybe this will change things: I want a jacket that stands out most from the rest of my black jackets. Least overlapping looks/function.
I already have a heavy rotation of jackets, of which among my black jackets the Lost Worlds horsehide Lightning 402, Shangri-la Varenne steerhide, and The Flat Head deerskin cafe racer, so if I keep a perfecto, I want one that is distinctly different from the rest of my rotation of black jackets.

coolhandluke_7 · Friday at 2:00 AM

Yowza...gonna vote for jacket B. At first glance, I would never have thought that it was a modern jacket.

On second thought. What size are you? I might have to change my vote.

LuddGang · Friday at 2:45 AM

Beltless - that’s the one that meets your brief of being something a bit different.

Aloysius · Friday at 4:04 AM

The first jacket. It's not a Perfecto btw it's a Sugar Cane Indian Ranger. That would basically be my dream jacket.

Mandarin · Friday at 7:25 AM

Tough choice indeed. I used to own Sugar Canes with both types of leather. I remember being overly careful with the teacore one because the top coat is very thin and I don't like the resulting messy effect of exaggerated wear. Thus a slight preference for the belted jacket.

Poltung · Friday at 8:15 AM

Aloysius said:
The first jacket. It's not a Perfecto btw it's a Sugar Cane Indian Ranger. That would basically be my dream jacket.

Noted thanks! Even cooler I love the name

Poltung · Friday at 8:22 AM

LuddGang said:
Beltless - that’s the one that meets your brief of being something a bit different.

How so? You'd think a gigantic belt would make it stand out even more vs the Varenne's clean straight zip looks and the Lightning's rough beltless looks.

Poltung · Friday at 8:23 AM

Mandarin said:
Tough choice indeed. I used to own Sugar Canes with both types of leather. I remember being overly careful with the teacore one because the top coat is very thin and I don't like the resulting messy effect of exaggerated wear. Thus a slight preference for the belted jacket.

Awesome, why did you move them along if I may ask?

Mandarin · Friday at 8:28 AM

Poltung said:
Awesome, why did you move them along if I may ask?

Simple arithmetics. I had too many, needed to make some room. Still do.

Poltung · Friday at 8:51 AM

coolhandluke_7 said:
Yowza...gonna vote for jacket B. At first glance, I would never have thought that it was a modern jacket.

On second thought. What size are you? I might have to change my vote.

Size 38 hahaha

Zoro · Friday at 9:05 AM

I say belt one. I do think the beltless fits slightly better but I personally quite dislike the yellowish leather showing up where the top coat has eroded (unless that had been my doing after a long time).

Also, a belt jacket can become a beltless if you decide so.

Poltung · Friday at 9:15 AM

The lady has spoken, belt for her, that's at least 2 points!

LuddGang · Friday at 12:14 PM

Poltung said:
How so? You'd think a gigantic belt would make it stand out even more vs the Varenne's clean straight zip looks and the Lightning's rough beltless looks.

I think the yellow teacore is pretty unusual and more of a standout for me. Both nice jackets though. I've been thinking of selling my cross-zip (a Lewis Memphis) as I don't wear it as much as the others, but posts like this make me think I ought to keep it in rotation as a genuinely different option.

AeroFan_07 · Friday at 3:23 PM

Each of my 3-current cross zips has the ability to completely remove the belt, so this has not been an issue for my situation.

I would say whichever one you like best - stick with it. Let the other one sail away!

Both are very nice in my opinion and fit you very well too, I do not think you could make a bad choice here.

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