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80 degree and muggy at daybreak... definately a straw hat day!
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Nice hat! The manufacturing tag behind the sweatband is the most useful tool for estimating a decade on Borsalino hats. 1940s is unlikely due to the impacts of WWII on trade and on the factory in Alessandria.
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I've seen two examples of a 1920s Mikado straw, the other from the collection of RLK which is still hiding around these pages somewhere. A very durable weave with significant heft. It's a hat I wear mostly early in the season but one I keep handy to look at often.
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Very good point. I wish the crown wasnt so tall. It's giving Witch hat vibes. Any fix for that?
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Too tall? I love this thing. You get tired of looking at it, you let me know
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Gentlemen, your compliments always stroke the ego, but I did share your kind remarks with my lady. Tina doesn't do forums but she does like look in on The Lounge, seeing those kind words she went all bashful but expressed her thanks nonetheless. Thank you.
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Mayser Panama again this evening.
It is pretty straightforward to lower a crown — the key is to move material to a center bump. The felt on your hat looks so nice you probably don‘t even need steam to do it.
I’m sure there are lots of examples out there but here is a crown lowering project I did awhile back:
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/western-anyone.24539/post-3198978
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An excellent cohesive outfit topped by a great hat. Like the frames especially.
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Beautiful classics!
P. & C. Habig Wien Berlin, Kreissäge (Boater), mid 1920s. This hat was made specially for the P. & C. Habig Berlin store at Friedrichstrasse 82a which didn't survive WWII. The beautiful Straw Weave glows gold in sunlight and is flexible plus light weight. As you can see from the photos it's in excellent condition. I found this Kreissäge back in 2012.
P. & C. Habig Berlin, Friedrichstr 82a, 1920s.
Very handsome one, Marcel!
That is one DAMN fine lookin' hat, sir!
Great googly moogly!!!! What a STUNNING weave on that one, Alan! No wonder you like to stare at it!
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Now that just needed to be repeated!
Love it Mark! Sign me up for the delightfully insouciant bashes thread!
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Ottmar Reich, Kreissäge Hut / Straw Boater possibly later 1920s. It's highly possible the Straw type and weave are Asian but it is just a guess. I know that Ottmar Reich sourced from Asia (see below) and there were so many Straw types, weaves and sources in the time period (see below). It only weighs 110 grams so light in weight. The Mother of Pearl Shank Button was missing but I was able to find a vintage replacement. I found this Kreissäge Hut / Straw Boater back in 2016.
The following is from Ottmar Reich "100 Years" (1938). I found this Anniversary Booklet back in 2014.
Images from China and Japan, provided by our business partners for the commemorative publication.
Sowing (China): The sparse image nevertheless reveals the care with which the fields are cultivated here in the hilly countryside; they resemble our vineyards more than our arable land. The soil, neither too lean nor too rich, produces fine, tall stalks.
Inspection of the braids (China): The braiders have a tendency to unravel less-than-perfect braiding material in such a way that it ends up lying on the inside of the individual piece. The inspectors all work under side skylights, checking the dimensions, the purity of the stalk, the quality of the work, sorting out the grades, and achieving an astonishing daily output
Harvesting on the plains (China): Rice and wheat straw are often cut for braiding purposes before the grain ripens, so that the stalks are not very woody and can be woven quickly and beautifully. The provinces of Maslienpoo, Sancolien, Fiuku, and Sinchong are renowned for this.
Rustic braiding (Japan): The process of making straw braid is easy to follow. The woman sitting on the left squeezes the already sorted stalks of a precisely measured length in half. The women in the middle braid them together with nimble fingers and deliver the finished braids to the woman working on the far right, who maintains the exact trade measurement while winding the braid and simultaneously remeasure the delivered goods
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The entire booklet is available here.
https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/18-ottmar-reich-hutfabrik/#findComment-943
As I mentioned the number different Straw types, weaves and sources were too many in the time period to make a determination today. The following display is from the general time period of this Ottmar Reich, Kreissäge Hut / Straw Boater. Mayser - Milz & Cie were also located in Lindenberg.
Mayser-Milz & Cie. "Exotenstumpen und Strohgeflechte Für Herren Sommerhüte / Exotic Straw Hoods and Straw Braids for Men's Summer Hats". This is from Deutsches Hutmuseum Kulturfabrik, Lindenberg, Germany collection which is located in the former Ottmar Reich factory building. I took this photo when I visited the museum back in 2016. You might be able to enlarge the photo by clicking on it.
Unfortunately the display was on top of a large display case so it was too far away to take good photos but you can see more details at the URL below. It would be extremely helpful to be able to photograph this display in detail. About 10 years ago I made a request to the museum to see if they could take detailed photos and they said they might be able to when the display was cleaned but I never followed up on it.
https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/237-mayser-milz-cie-exotenstumpen-und-strohgeflechte-für-herren-sommerhüte-exotic-straw-hoods-and-straw-braids-for-mens-summer-hats/
The following is from Ottmar Reich "100 Years" (1938). I found this Anniversary Booklet back in 2014.
Images from China and Japan, provided by our business partners for the commemorative publication.
Sowing (China): The sparse image nevertheless reveals the care with which the fields are cultivated here in the hilly countryside; they resemble our vineyards more than our arable land. The soil, neither too lean nor too rich, produces fine, tall stalks.
Inspection of the braids (China): The braiders have a tendency to unravel less-than-perfect braiding material in such a way that it ends up lying on the inside of the individual piece. The inspectors all work under side skylights, checking the dimensions, the purity of the stalk, the quality of the work, sorting out the grades, and achieving an astonishing daily output
Harvesting on the plains (China): Rice and wheat straw are often cut for braiding purposes before the grain ripens, so that the stalks are not very woody and can be woven quickly and beautifully. The provinces of Maslienpoo, Sancolien, Fiuku, and Sinchong are renowned for this.
Rustic braiding (Japan): The process of making straw braid is easy to follow. The woman sitting on the left squeezes the already sorted stalks of a precisely measured length in half. The women in the middle braid them together with nimble fingers and deliver the finished braids to the woman working on the far right, who maintains the exact trade measurement while winding the braid and simultaneously remeasure the delivered goods
30
The entire booklet is available here.
https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/18-ottmar-reich-hutfabrik/#findComment-943
As I mentioned the number different Straw types, weaves and sources were too many in the time period to make a determination today. The following display is from the general time period of this Ottmar Reich, Kreissäge Hut / Straw Boater. Mayser - Milz & Cie were also located in Lindenberg.
Mayser-Milz & Cie. "Exotenstumpen und Strohgeflechte Für Herren Sommerhüte / Exotic Straw Hoods and Straw Braids for Men's Summer Hats". This is from Deutsches Hutmuseum Kulturfabrik, Lindenberg, Germany collection which is located in the former Ottmar Reich factory building. I took this photo when I visited the museum back in 2016. You might be able to enlarge the photo by clicking on it.
Unfortunately the display was on top of a large display case so it was too far away to take good photos but you can see more details at the URL below. It would be extremely helpful to be able to photograph this display in detail. About 10 years ago I made a request to the museum to see if they could take detailed photos and they said they might be able to when the display was cleaned but I never followed up on it.
https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/237-mayser-milz-cie-exotenstumpen-und-strohgeflechte-für-herren-sommerhüte-exotic-straw-hoods-and-straw-braids-for-mens-summer-hats/
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