Well, that certainly has loads of character, Joe.
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Another superb find; what are the odds? The one even has the fighting dogs on the liner. Doesn't get much better than that, Daniele (or it would be that they were your size).Second gem in the middle of some overly rolled stone.
Another creation by G.B. Borsalino fu Lazzaro.
Bowler size 51/2 or 58 cm or 7 1/4 in the US.
The internal measures are slightly smaller than yesterday's sister: 19.8x16.4 let's say a 58 with some small restrictions. We are in the presence of a hat for the high end society then in Italy, superb finishes and craftmanship.
What is noticeably different is the sweatband here in dark green, almost black, so my eyes tell me but it could be just my impressions.
The bowler hat was sold in the center of Genoa, towards the port in a street that for years was a bit difficult to cross.
The conditions are perfect and time seems to have not affected the elegance of this hat.
The interior is wonderful and so is the rest.
The label in the paper states that this bowler hat has no quality designation, but a model name "Ascott".
This find was lucky and also a good experience helps to have a hat from a hundred years ago here.
Let's see if we can bring the bear back to life, Daniele.Ladies and Gentleman: The Rolling Stones
Two hats that rolled in life and now bear the marks.
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Borsalino Qualità Extra Superiore size 4 or 55 centimeters.
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It is relatively modern, you can see from the paper label, but it has lived so long that the lining, in bad condition, is completely detached.
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The felt is "Sebino" color, one of Borsalino's not too seen grays, quite rare.
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The felt has areas to be cleaned with care, while the ribbon is intact.
These are the measurements: the raw brims are 6 cm. and the crown at the lowest point is 11cm, the ribbon is 3.5cm.
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A nice hat to restore.
The second is a rarity for all Borsalino lovers because it is one of those who arrived on the market in disguise.
These are the measurements: the raw brims are 6.5 cm. and the crown at the lowest point is 11cm, the ribbon is 3 cm. View attachment 300596
The hat is finished in an impeccable way and has been sold in one of the most famous hat shops in Turin with the evident inscription "Worked by hand" on the sweatband.
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Its condition testifies to its excessive use.
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The lining is almost completely detached and the ribbon shows obvious signs of wear.
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The label tells us that the felt is "Ossido" and the combination with the ribbon is fantastic.
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The size is 5 therefore a 57 centimeters or 7 in the States.
To see them again on the stage of life they need care
Great score, Joe. I like the way the open crown looks. Cool hat.Stetson Nutria Quality
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Stetson Nutria Quality - Black ‘Western Derby’
Early 1950s OPS Era
5 1/4 Firm Open Crown
3/8 grosgrain western style ribbon
2 3/4 front 2 1/2 sides brim with pencil curl
I am very pleased and relieved this beautiful hat has finally arrived after being lost in a post office in Tyler, Texas for about the last month. At long last I have finally received this hat that is a Christmas present from my son and came off a well appreciated tip from @BobHufford. I have been really looking forward to it’s arrival and I am ecstatic it has now arrived. Not only am I happy to own my first Nutria Quality... this hat has a styling like no other hat in my collection. I’m sure others could tell me the name of this style hat... but I would describe it is a ‘western derby’. The western style hat features a hard firm derby like open crown that measures about 5 1/4 inches. The pencil curl Brim is dimensional reaching 2 3/4 inches to the curl in front and about 2 1/4 on the sides with no edge binding. In the sellers photos is the original OPS Era price tag stating a selling price of $17 and pinning the dating of this hat to the 1951 to 1953 OPS era. The seller indicated the tag was placed back behind the sweat. However the sweat is getting a bit stiff and brittle from age and on my precursory investigation I have not located it. It’s not worth damaging the old sweat bearing the Stetson Nutria Quality badge with stars shield logo any further so for now I will leave well enough alone. A good brushing out of decades of dirt along with a lint roller really cleaned it up well.. though clearly i missed a bit of pet hair.
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Thanks Stefan. A hat like this definitely gives you a little bit of swagger when you wear it.
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Thank you, Stefan. I understand what you mean:
The linings of the pre-war Dunns I've seen here were all more elaborate.
And also later linings e.g. at bowlers often have at least elaborate imprints.
But my impression is that the dating with the "G.A. imprint" is just not correct
and it is not a hat from the 30s/40s. The shape (crown tapers) and materials
are high quality, but I think from the 50s.
The relatively simple lining with just the gold print looks very elegant
and maybe that was the purpose - originally!? The print on the lining
and the one on the sweat also match perfectly
I looked closely again and found no evidence of a replacement lining.
But how should that look - I have no idea! Do you have a clue?
Unlikely that someone would make a copy of an old liner imprint, so there has to be a point in time where these liners were used. Haven't seen one before, so there's not much to go on. Until we find one or more others like it, it will be a mystery I'm afraid.
I'm kind of partial to nutria felts and this one popped up at a low price. It is a bit of a beater but still very wearable as a grab and go hat.
Borsalino Lunasca Amarena nutria. Size 56 with the brim at 7cm and the crown at 11 at the center dent. Liner went missing and there are some small holes in the felt. Sweatband is not in the best condition either (despite it having slurped up about a gallon of mink oil).
Borsalino Lunasca Amarena nutria. Size 56 with the brim at 7cm and the crown at 11 at the center dent. Liner went missing and there are some small holes in the felt. Sweatband is not in the best condition either (despite it having slurped up about a gallon of mink oil).
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Borsalino Lunasca Amarena nutria.
Nice beater! I'm wondering if you can tell if your nail polish is red or green.
Sools of Paris in grey/sand colour called Tunis. Size 55 with the brim at 5cm and the crown at 10,5 cm at the center dent. A somewhat thicker felt that needs some persuading to go where I want it. Weighs 114 grams. Some superficial moth damage, but nothing serious.
More in the French hats and makers thread.
More in the French hats and makers thread.
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The Dobbs Hanover Square showed up at my house at noon the same time I did ... and my wife is out of town. A perfect delivery!
Came with a knocked-about Resistol box, but it does have the insert. The hat needs a bit of brushing / steaming, but I'm happy as it fits my head and fit into my "bottom feeder" hat budget (at $7.50). Early 1950s?
The hat is browner than these pics.
These are color accurate:
Came with a knocked-about Resistol box, but it does have the insert. The hat needs a bit of brushing / steaming, but I'm happy as it fits my head and fit into my "bottom feeder" hat budget (at $7.50). Early 1950s?
The hat is browner than these pics.
These are color accurate:
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Heck yeah. Hit the trifecta on that one Bob. Great hat. Great price. Perfect delivery window. LOL
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Ha,ha ... thanks Joe!
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Knockout hat. I think the Hanover Square is my favorite of the Dobbs.
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Congrats, Bob, that looks great. My kinda price, too!
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Bummer. I really preferred the way the colors looked in the first photos. Regardless, I like the proportions. Sharp hat!
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Killer acquisition, Bob!! I'd say 50s is a good estimate. Congrats on that beauty!
